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Old 05-25-2020, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fe...pt-hertz-bonds

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This means that unless the Fed somehow manages to divest of Hertz bonds that comprise its HYG and JNK holdings, the US central bank is as of this moment a stakeholder in the Hertz bankruptcy process, and assuming there is no liquidation, will end up owning a pro-rata stake of the post-petition equity once the company emerges from bankruptcy in the not too distant future.
Given that the Federal Reserve has sort of quasi-merged with the US Treasury during the COVID-19 pandemic...

Is this basically a stealthy move towards government nationalization of not only companies but increasingly entire industries???
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Old 05-25-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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It’s so stealthy they let you in on it?
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Old 05-25-2020, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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It’s so stealthy they let you in on it?
Those in power know that government nationalizing companies isn't exactly popular with the public...
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Old 05-25-2020, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Boston
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ssshhh mums the word.........lmao... Hertz troubles began with the creation of Uber.

It was $72 a share in June 2015, it was $26 a share Feb 2016.
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:30 PM
 
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Why are you buying or investing in a company that is going bankrupt?

If there is chance of saving company, then private sector should see the opportunity.
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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If the government wants to nationalize industry, car rental seems like a pretty ****ty place to start. What’s next, taxis and landlines?

Did you forget that the government owned part of GM after the last crisis and divested.
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Old 05-25-2020, 06:49 PM
 
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Given that the Federal Reserve has sort of quasi-merged with the US Treasury during the COVID-19 pandemic...

Is this basically a stealthy move towards government nationalization of not only companies but increasingly entire industries???


You haven't seen anything yet. I think the Fed's balance sheet will stand at a minimum of $15-$20 trillion by the middle of 2021.
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:33 PM
 
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You haven't seen anything yet. I think the Fed's balance sheet will stand at a minimum of $15-$20 trillion by the middle of 2021.
Cool, and the Yuan will be worth 50 cents, a € will cost you two bucks, and gasoline will be $5 a gallon.
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia (Center City)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fe...pt-hertz-bonds

Given that the Federal Reserve has sort of quasi-merged with the US Treasury during the COVID-19 pandemic...

Is this basically a stealthy move towards government nationalization of not only companies but increasingly entire industries???
No. Quite the contrary. Hertz will likely eventually emerge from bankruptcy due to the Fed's actions. Without the Fed's help, they would have likely been filing for a chapter 7 bankruptcy instead of chapter 11.

Lots of articles written about over-leveraged companies. One of the reasons the stock market dived so quickly in March, was that high yield debt in a lot of companies was on the verge of becoming illiquid (like Hertz). Rather than risk the simultaneous collapse of a lot of over-leveraged companies, the Fed stepped in to prop up the market. The stock market responded with a big bounce of approval. What's interesting is that Blackrock is part of this effort to buy distressed debt, some of it owned by their own subsidiaries. I doubt Blackrock would be involved unless the US government or Fed is somehow backstopping any losses they may incur.

Once again, the investor class was rescued because the regulatory system facilitated a situation where the debt was just too consequential to allow it to fail. When will we learn?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-debt-binge

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Old 05-25-2020, 08:18 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Like the airlines, rental car companies have screwed a lot of people.

It's a necessary service, but better practices need to be mandated.
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