Could a UBI paired with a flat tax replace our progressive tax and welfare system? (percentage, deduction)

[User_Error]

What if we replaced our current system with a Universal Basic Income along with a flat tax rate? For example, all citizens 18 or older (independent of income) would receive $2,000 (or other amount) a month stipend and would be taxed 30% (or other percentage) of any income. No tax brackets, no deductions, just a basic flat tax applied to everyone equally.

Any social assistance (health care/ daycare / senior care) would also be available to everyone, regardless of income level.

Could this work? Why or why not?

[Therblig]

UBI will not be funded by income tax.

[Thatsright19]

Flat taxes are nonstarters.

[mkpunk]

Originally Posted by Thatsright19

Flat taxes are nonstarters.

This. The lower middle class gets hosed.

[Therblig]

Originally Posted by Thatsright19

Flat taxes are nonstarters.

That, too. It's not just the 'lower middle class'; pretty much everyone gets hosed at the benefit of the upper income brackets.

Why do you think its proponents are always the rich to very rich? (And those who have no clue how progressive tax revenue is structured...)

Sorry, this whole thread is a nonstarter. The OP's question understands neither UBI nor income taxation and then tries to yoke them together.

[k374]

if there is a $2K UBI I will just retire, no use continuing to work if I can sit on the beach and consume Corona beers on the government's dime while some suckers slog their ass off to pay taxes to take care of me.

[Therblig]

Originally Posted by k374

if there is a $2K UBI I will just retire, no use continuing to work if I can sit on the beach and consume Corona beers on the government's dime while some suckers slog their ass off to pay taxes to take care of me.

So is it "the government's dime" or taxes from some "working sucker's" earnings?

Or just possibly, neither one. <fx Yakov Smirnov> "What a CONcept!" </fx>

[Mister 7]

Originally Posted by Therblig

So is it "the government's dime" or taxes from some "working sucker's" earnings?

Or just possibly, neither one. <fx Yakov Smirnov> "What a CONcept!" </fx>

Well, yeah.

You are aware that the US government possesses not one red cent in their name, right?

Where do you think the revenue comes from? Tax..

[Taggerung]

I've said this before and I'll say it again;

When everyone gets $2k/mo for doing nothing, $2k will be worth nothing.

[Therblig]

Originally Posted by Taggerung

When everyone gets $2k/mo for doing nothing, $2k will be worth nothing.

Suppose there's nothing to do. How much is it worth then?