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Old 02-18-2021, 05:12 AM
 
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I suggest you look at the death statistics they speak for themselves. Can you look at data yourself and form a conclusion? Maybe call the podcast and have them do it for you if you can not. The young almost suffer nothing from this. Why is that? It is because they have not abused themselves like most older folks. They do not pop down endless prescription drugs and stuff themselves with booze and food. Then become diabetic from their gluttony like so many older folks.
No , we are not talking death , we are talking serious covid requiring hospitalization ..anything else is no worse than the flu or bad cold. That allows the economy to open fully

How you do is linked to age. But your chances of severe illness is tied to the viral load you get at any adult age group .
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Then your body comes in to play as to whether it can handle that amount of virus material based on all the other factors above . Which being immune to colds in the past are not a factor so you can’t say you have a good or poor immune system to covid UNTIL AFTER YOU GET IT .

Even then ,a low viral load will have a different outcome than a higher one on you.

As I said there are great source for learning . What you think is not the case and science is showing that.

In fact read the link I posted above from the latest study released this week.

Here is more science , but I guess you think you know better. ,like most of what you tend to post that is off base

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19057-5


https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/88692

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0243597


It is the fact that the vaccines reduce not only the effects of covid on our own bodies but what we spew out on others that has many times the effectiveness allowing the economy to eventually stabilize from the effects as covid in many cases will now be reduced to no worse than a cold or flu as transmitted viral loads are greatly reduced as well .

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Old 02-18-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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I suggest you look at the death statistics they speak for themselves. Can you look at data yourself and form a conclusion? Maybe call the podcast and have them do it for you if you can not. The young almost suffer nothing from this. Why is that? It is because they have not abused themselves like most older folks. They do not pop down endless prescription drugs and stuff themselves with booze and food. Then become diabetic from their gluttony like so many older folks.
Why have we not seen similar hospitalization and death rates from colds and other corona viruses?

By summer as millions get the vaccine and Covid 19 hospitalization and death numbers drop precipitously, how will that correlate with your theory of personal abuse?
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Old 02-18-2021, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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No, the biggest factor is your immune system and overall health. I had the corona virus. It was just like other corona viruses that I had in the past. It lasted a couple days then gone. I am healthy though and very fit. The corona virus is a cold virus and has been around evolving since the beginning of time. All cold viruses are corona viruses.
One case does not show anything, what matters is the data from thousands - the data shows that COVID is different from seasonal flu and the data backs that characterization - that is not opinion.

The mortality rate of seasonal flu is about 0.1% and few are hospitalized vs up to 3-4% mortality rate for COVID (WHC numbers) a significant number are hospitalized. Age is a much bigger determiner for COVID hospitalizations and deaths than seasonal flu viruses. The other major difference is ability to spread, the data seems to show that COVID spreads easier and an infected person spreads for significantly longer with and without showing symptoms.
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Old 02-18-2021, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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I suggest you look at the death statistics they speak for themselves. Can you look at data yourself and form a conclusion? Maybe call the podcast and have them do it for you if you can not. The young almost suffer nothing from this. Why is that? It is because they have not abused themselves like most older folks. They do not pop down endless prescription drugs and stuff themselves with booze and food. Then become diabetic from their gluttony like so many older folks.
So now you want to blame those that died? The explanation has already been given - your data is not backed by ANY studies. Get a medical degree and do the study to prove your theory, otherwise your contention is just nonsense.
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:36 AM
 
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So now you want to blame those that died? The explanation has already been given - your data is not backed by ANY studies. Get a medical degree and do the study to prove your theory, otherwise your contention is just nonsense.
They shoot from the hip in almost every thread ...there is no science behind anything they ever post or data when it comes to financial forums
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:29 AM
 
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They shoot from the hip in almost every thread ...there is no science behind anything they ever post or data when it comes to financial forums
We need experts to validate everything. Yes we shoot from the hip, but we are very healthy,. What about you? money can't buy health. I had covid, it was a sniffle.
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:31 AM
 
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No , we are not talking death , we are talking serious covid requiring hospitalization ..anything else is no worse than the flu or bad cold. That allows the economy to open fully

How you do is linked to age. But your chances of severe illness is tied to the viral load you get at any adult age group .
..
Then your body comes in to play as to whether it can handle that amount of virus material based on all the other factors above . Which being immune to colds in the past are not a factor so you can’t say you have a good or poor immune system to covid UNTIL AFTER YOU GET IT .

Even then ,a low viral load will have a different outcome than a higher one on you.

As I said there are great source for learning . What you think is not the case and science is showing that.

In fact read the link I posted above from the latest study released this week.

Here is more science , but I guess you think you know better. ,like most of what you tend to post that is off base

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19057-5


https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/88692

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0243597


It is the fact that the vaccines reduce not only the effects of covid on our own bodies but what we spew out on others that has many times the effectiveness allowing the economy to eventually stabilize from the effects as covid in many cases will now be reduced to no worse than a cold or flu as transmitted viral loads are greatly reduced as well .

You need to learn brevity.
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:32 AM
 
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You need to learn brevity.
You need to learn not to shoot from the hip with what you think ...

Learn science and facts and learn not to generalize as if one size fits all
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:05 PM
 
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You need to learn brevity.
I think you are exhibiting a full fledged case of mental laziness by not processing mathjak107's post. Are you being mentally lazy?
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:32 PM
 
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We need experts to validate everything. Yes we shoot from the hip, but we are very healthy,. What about you? money can't buy health. I had covid, it was a sniffle.
A friend's pregnant daughter, she's 28 IIRC, is fighting for her and her baby's life in a Houston hospital right this second.
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