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Old 07-18-2020, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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Originally Posted by The Market Maven View Post
A mask, goggles, gloves, and face shield mandate would be for starters. In public and at home. Anyone who doesn't comply faces jail time like many local governments are doing already. If that doesn't work then possibly prison or the death penalty. Some experts are even recommending wearing masks and additional protective measures while engaging in intimate activities. If we take all of these necessary precautions and follow all orders by the authorities we might have this thing under control in 2 or 3 years. Safety first.
LOL! I love it.

“Safety first” is the new “in this economy...”
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Old 07-18-2020, 09:14 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Ain't that the truth. I was speaking with a friend this evening, who told me about a guy who went to his Doctor, and asked, "Hey, Doc, when do you think all this hoopla about the pandemic is going to go away?"
The Doctor replied, "How the heck should I know? I'm a Doctor, not a Politician".

With respect to the death rate being 3.9% (an above comment), that math only works if the approximately 3.8 million total infected were ALL of the people that actually had or have the virus. That number represents only cases confirmed by testing, but since many folks are asymptomatic, the true number of infected is likely MUCH higher than that.

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist on all this, but do have some questions:
1) If it's not safe to put kids together in a classroom, why is it safe to put them into a library or other group session during the day (to allow the parents to go to work), as the Mayor of NYC is suggesting?
2) If wearing masks prevents the spread of the virus, why did they release thousands of inmates from the jails, instead of just giving the inmates masks?
3) Why is it OK to attend a BLM march, but not OK to attend church? (another New York question).

Personally, it's looking more and more like both the Coronavirus and the Floyd protests/riots have been turned into political tools to sway voters before the November elections. I'm not very impressed by that, and plan to Vote Accordingly.
Everything is upside down started with the witch-hunt impeachment last year. The establishment wants Trump removed desperately.

This year the found COVID-19 and BLM. There are blacks killed by cops every year but they picked the cases that were already out and prosecutors ignored already. Clear signs of media manipulation. They didn’t riot until the MSM got to it and George Floyd was dead awhile ago.

Now for COVID-19 I know of 5 people that got it, while it was a rough cold but it wasn’t life threatening for the folks I know infected.

I know they manipulated the death count because they started counting any unrelated deaths from March as COVID-19 deaths. Not a conspiracy but the truth of manipulating data by the democrat controlled cities and states.

While GOP controlled states has high infections but the death rates don’t line up as the democrat controlled states.

I am not supporting going mask less but there are political influences in our livelihood due to the election.
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Old 07-18-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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Churches can have all the services they want, as long as they do it outside. Unfortunately, some sects believe Jesus won't show up if there is no AC or padded pews.

It's the building that is the problem, not the religion.
Some people apparently think God won't show up at all if they're not at church or a church service.


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I hope a vaccine is developed. If it is, maybe everyone will have to get vaccinated annually or every few years, like we get vaccinated for other illnesses, like flu, measles, polio....
The worry is if immunity doesn't last for even a full year.


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Where the vaccine might fail the monoclonal antibodies might fill in. In fact they should be out sooner.
I think they're afraid that might not work so well, either.
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:13 AM
 
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I think they're afraid that might not work so well, either.
I don't know why not. It is a fairly good duplication of what nature does.
What are you reading?
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:29 AM
 
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Some people apparently think God won't show up at all if they're not at church or a church service.




The worry is if immunity doesn't last for even a full year.




I think they're afraid that might not work so well, either.
A lot of people are misunderstanding the research. There is no study suggesting that immunity is short-lived. It's just that we don't know one way or another.
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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As an ACE (arm chair economist) I think we will have a bit of an inflation up tick coming out of the pandemic. But in no way think it will be like the '70's.
I've been expecting that inflation uptick for over 20 years. I've been wrong for over 20 years.

Regarding inflation, I've recently been reading The Fiscal Theory of the Price Level. It is a draft by John Cochrane, a well-respected research economist. Specifically, his preface sheds some light on fiscal vs. monetary underpinnings of inflation, interwoven with a autobiographical context. Going past the preface, you might find it interesting, depending on how academic you wish to be as an ACE.
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:53 AM
 
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I've been expecting that inflation uptick for over 20 years. I've been wrong for over 20 years.

Regarding inflation, I've recently been reading The Fiscal Theory of the Price Level. It is a draft by John Cochrane, a well-respected research economist. Specifically, his preface sheds some light on fiscal vs. monetary underpinnings of inflation, interwoven with a autobiographical context. Going past the preface, you might find it interesting, depending on how academic you wish to be as an ACE.
Not much with academic stuff since I retired from medicine. For the above I would have to take the CliffsNotes.

I have read a lot of stuff from Cochrane, mainly blogs, postings and such, but don't have a specific opinion on him.

Right from the start though this worried me:

'We had been studying monetary economics and what happens as speedier electronic transactions reduce the demand for money.'

Did he mean currency?
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:00 AM
 
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By mid next year there will be widely available vaccinations for Covid19. Once enough people are immunized the virus will start to fade away.
I keep reading about people who assert they will refuse any vaccination. Of course, there is a difference between what people say now and what they actually do a year or two from now.
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:04 AM
 
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Hospitals in major cities are already at peak capacity, or are at 98% of it.
Source? We have seem to have plenty of capacity within a few hundred miles of hot spots. There are some areas that will require transportation of sick patients a bit farther than that, but not many. The good news is the mechanical life support ventilators that were in short supply back at the beginning of the pandemic no longer seem to be an issue.
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:13 AM
 
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Source? We have seem to have plenty of capacity within a few hundred miles of hot spots. There are some areas that will require transportation of sick patients a bit farther than that, but not many. The good news is the mechanical life support ventilators that were in short supply back at the beginning of the pandemic no longer seem to be an issue.
AZ is getting really stuffed mainly in the big cities. Our local small town hospital has been taking transfers.
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