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09-20-2020, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ddeemo
UI should last almost 2 years and should be 70-80% of salary - why? That would create a huge disincentive to find work because 70-80% is about the same as take home after account for payroll and income taxes and 6 months should be enough to find a job normally. Lets not give away the major incentives to fine =d work, We don't need more that see UI as a way to live instead of just a help.
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I think 80% for 2 years is too much as a general rule but there may be specific cases that justify it. The system does not have enough flexibility. UI is a rather blunt tool. And you owe income taxes on UI so paying it at 80% does not equal take home. You'll need to set aside for taxes (some states have withholding) or face a big tax bill later. |
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09-20-2020, 03:40 PM
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Location: Bangkok
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Originally Posted by MrRational
And I'd say that's just another example of that pedanticism promoting thread drift.
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Of course you would, you're the one who thinks naming vague general characteristics makes USA similar to Roman Empire before collapse.
Hey folks, Denmark is just like Roman Empire right before collapse. They have too much stuff, they pay lots of taxes and they like to eat bacon.
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Originally Posted by MrRational
Do you really need to have it spoon fed to you? I don't think so.
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Beautiful punt. High arc, and bounces perfectly! |
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09-20-2020, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BugsyPal
Debate rages on from both sides; many employers and others claim generous UI benefits of past few months have acted as a deterrent to people going to work. Meanwhile economists and others support the view no, such benefits have not had any major effect on people wanting full time employment.
This arguing is likely one huge factor in republicans and democrats still miles apart on any new stimulus package.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/10/b...ts-hiring.html |
Let me guess. The 'economists' who said no matter how much you pay people in UI, they will love to go back to work for less were Paul Krugman and Robert Reich? |
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09-20-2020, 04:55 PM
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Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by Grlzrl
Let me guess. The 'economists' who said no matter how much you pay people in UI, they will love to go back to work for less were Paul Krugman and Robert Reich?
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Anecdotally, my sister faced this. She could have left employment and made more being unemployed than working. Some of her colleagues did this. Now fast forward to the end of the gravy train. Who wants those people back? |
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09-20-2020, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by artillery77
Anecdotally, my sister faced this. She could have left employment and made more being unemployed than working. Some of her colleagues did this. Now fast forward to the end of the gravy train. Who wants those people back?
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Who knows who those people even are? |
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09-20-2020, 05:46 PM
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Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by oceangaia
Who knows who those people even are?
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The store does, but as she put it....they didn't lose anyone good. |
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09-20-2020, 05:53 PM
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Location: southern california
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Uib is just one of the Many non working Welfare type benefits and yes You can make out much better If you get public assistance than working at a low paid job
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09-21-2020, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by artillery77
Anecdotally, my sister faced this. She could have left employment and made more being unemployed than working. Some of her colleagues did this. Now fast forward to the end of the gravy train. Who wants those people back?
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Most employees don't get that choice. The employer decides who to lay off and if they refuse to come back to work, they're required to report that to the state so the UI benefits will be cut off. |
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09-21-2020, 03:07 PM
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Location: The Triad (NC)
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Originally Posted by lieqiang
Of course you would, you're the one who thinks naming vague general characteristics...
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Should be adequate when directed toward an apparently intelligent person...
in a general interest general audience foru like this.
Of course the OTHER aspect -- that you only seek specific to argue that instead.
Like lawyers.. facts or the law but all just to limit discussion rather than progress it.
There are few others like you around here. It gets real tedious. |
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09-22-2020, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KaraG
Most employees don't get that choice. The employer decides who to lay off and if they refuse to come back to work, they're required to report that to the state so the UI benefits will be cut off.
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There are covid exemptions. You claim one of the exemptions on why you can't go back to work and you still receive UI. |
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