Boeing moving all Dreamliner production to South Carolina! (complaint, company, money)

[NJ Brazen_3133]

Originally Posted by 1ondoner

The Georgia/Carolina's region has impressive concentration of high tech manufacturing plants due to low COL and availability of highly skilled labor force.

How come all them tech companies dont just go there instead? They keep asking state/cities with high COL for incentives like tax breaks.

[DKM]

Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

How come all them tech companies dont just go there instead? They keep asking state/cities with high COL for incentives like tax breaks.

The south has lots of room to build plants and favorable labor market conditions for expanding manufacturing there. Seattle is out of room, like many big cities. Geography matters when you are building large plants and infrastructure to support it. Airbus builds planes in Alabama too (not many know that).

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by ddeemo

The plant in Everett WA can't handle 787-10 fuselage for final assembly so cheaper to move to SC. WA was assembling 787-8 and 787-9, SC was doing those plus the 787-10. To consolidate had to move to SC.

Great info. thank you for it.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by DKM

The south has lots of room to build plants and favorable labor market conditions for expanding manufacturing there. Seattle is out of room, like many big cities. Geography matters when you are building large plants and infrastructure to support it. Airbus builds planes in Alabama too (not many know that).

The Economist did a piece a while back about America's next great economic corridor.....condensing a lot an arc at the left side formed by a line running from Houston to Dallas and then sweeping right to at least the Florida line and maybe as far as Tampa is predicted to be an economic hot zone for decades.

[MidValleyDad]

Originally Posted by EDS_

The Economist did a piece a while back about America's next great economic corridor.....condensing a lot an arc at the left side formed by a line running from Houston to Dallas and then sweeping right to at least the Florida line and maybe as far as Tampa is predicted to be an economic hot zone for decades.

That might end up being affected by the up tick in Hurricanes on the Gulf coast.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by DKM

The south has lots of room to build plants and favorable labor market conditions for expanding manufacturing there. Seattle is out of room, like many big cities. Geography matters when you are building large plants and infrastructure to support it. Airbus builds planes in Alabama too (not many know that).

It's less about room and much more about cost.

[markjames68]

Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

How come all them tech companies dont just go there instead? They keep asking state/cities with high COL for incentives like tax breaks.

A lot has to do with the preference of the CEO and the board. I know someone who took over a tech company and moved HQ from Florida to NY where he lives. It got a lot of press (who typically does such a thing) but I also imagine the company asked for $ from local and state government.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by markjames68

A lot has to do with the preference of the CEO and the board. I know someone who took over a tech company and moved HQ from Florida to NY where he lives. It got a lot of press (who typically does such a thing) but I also imagine the company asked for $ from local and state government.

I doubt that in Boeing's case. The HQ and CEO are based in Chicago. This is clearly a case of left-wing policies pushing out business.

[StealthRabbit]

Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

How come all them tech companies dont just go there instead? They keep asking state/cities with high COL for incentives like tax breaks.

Tech companies do not have thousands of $300k - million dollar machine tools filling their manf space. (and these machines require operators with 10+ yrs experience to run them)

Tech companies can operate 'virtual', as in from a flat/ apartment in India or a kitchen table in Jackson Hole, WY.

No need for living in SC for your tech job or company. (Tho plenty choose to be located in SC and NC)

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by Eeko156

Union jobs generally pay more.

You mean overpay.

Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

Why just manufacture overseas?

Do you really want me to answer that?

It's an aircraft. It's not a Mr. Coffee machine or a Samsung TV.

It requires an highly educated, highly skilled work-force to design, manufacture and assemble it.

That effectively rules out the entire continent of Africa, all of South America and a huge chunk of Asia (excepting Japan, China and South Korea).

That basically leaves OCanada, the US and Europe.

Moving to OCanada or Europe is not gonna save you even one thin dime.

There are other considerations you are obviously unaware.

The US government prohibits the transfer of certain technology to a large number of countries.

Where the US does not prohibit the transfer of that technology, it does restrict the transfer of it.

Note that "technology" is not just printed wire boards. That also include the metallurgy of the air-frame and power-plant.

One of the selling points of a particular model of an aircraft is its fuel consumption. Lighter aircraft consume less fuel, reducing operating costs.

You may not realize this, but a number of models do not use metals for the entirety of the air-frame. They use laminated composite Carbon compounds.

The technology to make the composite Carbon compounds, and to laminate them is not something the US wishes to share with all countries of the world for any number of reasons, including the potential to use them for military aircraft, weapons systems and equipment.