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Old 03-01-2021, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Looking forward to seeing you do it. You people are all such big talk. Like working multiple jobs is so easy.

I almost died trying to do it from falling asleep at the wheel. Thought I could moxie my way through sleep deprivation.
I have worked 2 jobs before when I was young - was not that bad. I have also had jobs that are much more than 40 hours a week. Technically I had a job that is 168 hrs a week - on a Sub at sea - although time actual working was probably about 80-90 hrs or equivalent to 2x normal work week - of course the commute distance was measured in feet.

BTW - You can't "moxie your way through sleep deprivation" when operating a Nuclear Reactor or a Submarine - bad things happen.
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Old 03-01-2021, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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I've done it a few times, and at professional jobs, have averaged 50-55 hours per week.
Oh I was doing more like 75, and at weird times.
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Old 03-01-2021, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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I have worked 2 jobs before when I was young - was not that bad. I have also had jobs that are much more than 40 hours a week. Technically I had a job that is 168 hrs a week - on a Sub at sea - although time actual working was probably about 80-90 hrs or equivalent to 2x normal work week - of course the commute distance was measured in feet.

BTW - You can't "moxie your way through sleep deprivation" when operating a Nuclear Reactor or a Submarine - bad things happen.
And I served in Iraq and Afghanistan in the Army, similarly 168 hour a week commitment.

The military works as a team and is more than a job. You weren't on your own. If you fall out your battle buddies will pick you up. Your NCOIC is responsible for making sure the troops get enough sleep and food to function. They also provide your room, board, clothing, health care, everything. In return you follow orders.

The military is very paternal. When I was working those 3 jobs was in the year after I got out, and realized how the civilian world is actually worse in a number of ways. No one gives a damn if you're healthy or not. Your one job doesn't give a damn you have other jobs. There's no health insurance. Etc...

The military is not comparable to trying to piece together multiple gigs in the civilian world.
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Old 03-02-2021, 10:01 AM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Libs haven't learned yet, half a loaf is better than none.
Jobs aren't a consumer produce like food. It's an opportunity cost. If half a loaf won't feed your family, you can't just find another half loaf somewhere else. You need to find the job that WILL feed your family.

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So they may work multiple jobs. My state has 24/7 highway rest stops, with McDonald's, Subways, etc all having difficulty filling overnight shifts.

A man at a local 7-11 nearby had 2 other unskilled jobs, concurrently, for decades.
Hard, if not impossible to work multiple jobs this day in age. Companies use software to determine optimum times for employees to be in, but don't tell them ahead of time what their schedule is going to be like. Can't work another job if you don't know what your availability is.
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Old 03-02-2021, 03:44 PM
 
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Jobs aren't a consumer produce like food. It's an opportunity cost. If half a loaf won't feed your family, you can't just find another half loaf somewhere else. You need to find the job that WILL feed your family.

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To do that, must obtain education and training that is marketable.
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Old 03-03-2021, 12:14 AM
 
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The problem is how people expect one sided economics.

Let’s say you’re overpaying for cable service or some other subscription. People will be very quick to cut the cost and brag about how it was a waste and so they just get rid of it.

Well, what do you think happens to employee costs that exceed the value they create because of artificial wage increases?
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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People are acting as if the minimum wage is some new concept we've never tried before, or no country has ever done before.

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Old 03-03-2021, 09:48 AM
 
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People are acting as if the minimum wage is some new concept we've never tried before, or no country has ever done before.
It must be a new concept to people proposing a blanket rate of $15 considering the COL differences that exist within states let alone across the country.
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Old 03-03-2021, 10:10 AM
 
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It must be a new concept to people proposing a blanket rate of $15 considering the COL differences that exist within states let alone across the country.
It's just flat dumb to foist the same rate in Starr County Texas and Maui etc.
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Old 03-03-2021, 11:07 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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To do that, must obtain education and training that is marketable.
Okay a bunch of people do that is there enough jobs for everyone? Nope not to mention that if a bunch of people became qualified for higher paying jobs those jobs would lose value causing wages for those jobs to drop. Saying just get a better job is something people who do not understand how the economy works say or maybe they do not just care.
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