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Old 05-10-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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I watched a Youtube video where the host does about a 15 minute study on lumber prices, and he basically came to this conclusion:

-5 major corporations own most of the lumber mills in the USA.
-They are purposely "sand-bagging", "dragging their feet" in production to create the current market conditions.
-Log prices are not up notably nor are logs in short supply.
-Workers throughout the chain are not getting big pay increases.
-As these large lumber mill corporations are public traded companies, sales volumes and financials are posted quarterly. An example showed lumber production only up 20% in Q1 2021, compared to Q1 of 2020(which was very slow due to Covid-19). Yet profits for Q1 2021 had more than quadrupled.


At my local HD Sunday, the price of one stud length 2x6 was $11.90 !!!
Link the video please.
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Old 05-10-2021, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdnSPZfI4k

Here is the video I mentioned.
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:01 AM
 
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-Log prices are not up notably nor are logs in short supply.

https://www.proremodeler.com/meet-be...-lumber-prices
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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Here is another one showing a train yard full of lumber and some discussion about what is going on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3zjaeof8w
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:16 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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What area is that in, Texas? I'm doing a GIS project at work and couldn't believe the magnitude of new construction going on in many areas there.
What is this GIS project you are working on, out of curioisity. I used to be in GIS and am now a realtor, so you have my attention!
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Old 05-11-2021, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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This is blame shifting and not relevant. Homes are built with Douglas Fir, Hemlock, and Spruce studs, pine warps easily and rots quickly. The only common structural use for it is as treated ground contact lumber.
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Old 05-13-2021, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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I for one look forward to seeing less construction. Hopefully lumber prices skyrocket much higher and kill off the production home building industry entirely. Let's hope we won't be seeing any more of these disgraces being built in the future:



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Old 05-13-2021, 08:49 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdnSPZfI4k

Here is the video I mentioned.
Good video. Thanks.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Maine
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This is blame shifting and not relevant. Homes are built with Douglas Fir, Hemlock, and Spruce studs, pine warps easily and rots quickly. The only common structural use for it is as treated ground contact lumber.
I think you are confusing southern yellow pine and eastern white, southern yellow is used in a lot of pressure treated, eastern white is used as framing extensively.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:02 AM
 
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This is blame shifting and not relevant. Homes are built with Douglas Fir, Hemlock, and Spruce studs, pine warps easily and rots quickly. The only common structural use for it is as treated ground contact lumber.

As a former building supplier, I must disagree; bark beetles have decimated spruce as well.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...ortage/618727/


This, of course; is only exacerbating other factors contributing.
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