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"Relate" has little to do with it. We have a couple of generations in a row who have been so amazingly lucky and rich many have opted out. The only good news is it seems like more and more younger people are growing out of the mass malaise you and the other guy revel in.
Post WWII ascendancy? In 1957/58 the poverty rate was nearly 25%. You've never seen anything remotely like that. Yet you whine, twist reality etc. It's pathetic, sad and literally ignorant.
ETA - by growing out of it, I mean it looks like Zoomers are more academically inclined and less mentally ill too.
Lol. I have to laugh. I wouldn’t say are overall society is doing a good job even if we have a lot of “wealth”. We are the fattest country in the world and are probably the most dependent of pharmaceutical drugs. We definitely shouldn’t be too proud of ourselves.
But as a young guy I see the light at the end of the tunnel, the younger generation including mine is more health conscious and environmentally conscious then prior ones.
Sure like I said I drove around the country burning gas and polluting, you got me there, but at least the car was new and more efficient with better technology to offset emissions. Also I haven’t had 3 kids that I expect Uncle Sam to take care of either.
Maybe one day I’ll emotionally buy into our society more when cigarettes are illegal, teachers make more then dumb sports players, and the government encourages exercise and diet over a pharmaceutical drug to combat a little virus. Until then I’ll remain somewhat cynical and emotionally detached from the nationalism of our country.
It’s a great big beautiful country with beautiful scenery and landscapes, however a lot of it is just a ****ty concrete jungle filled with people who are stuck in the consumerism cycle and rat race of an economy that isn’t long term sustainable.
1. You were wrong about, "economics" not considering/accounting for resource depletion/ecological damage you simply picked a couple of metrics that don't, directly anyway.
2. Preaching about ecology given your pride in low income and love of free time etc. while driving around 35,000 miles (your carbon footprint is abnormally large per se and assuming from your story your carbon footprint per economic contribution is horrendous) hence the irony and folly of it all.
See my last reply. And yes I picked out a metric that the average person focuses on like GDP. So I wasn’t wrong there.
...I would rather would work less, own less crap and have more leisure time.
Your wish is granted.
Just don't come asking for income subsidies from the productive among us once you are elderly because you made a conscious decision to work less & earn less & save less during your prime working years. If you haven't saved for your elderly years, you can eat lawn clippings when you're 70.
Personally, I would rather add more value to society by contributing more to GDP throughout my lifetime, but that's my personal preference.
Lol. I have to laugh. I wouldn’t say are overall society is doing a good job even if we have a lot of “wealth”. We are the fattest country in the world and are probably the most dependent of pharmaceutical drugs. We definitely shouldn’t be too proud of ourselves.
But as a young guy I see the light at the end of the tunnel, the younger generation including mine is more health conscious and environmentally conscious then prior ones.
Sure like I said I drove around the country burning gas and polluting, you got me there, but at least the car was new and more efficient with better technology to offset emissions. Also I haven’t had 3 kids that I expect Uncle Sam to take care of either.
Maybe one day I’ll emotionally buy into our society more when cigarettes are illegal, teachers make more then dumb sports players, and the government encourages exercise and diet over a pharmaceutical drug to combat a little virus. Until then I’ll remain somewhat cynical and emotionally detached from the nationalism of our country.
It’s a great big beautiful country with beautiful scenery and landscapes, however a lot of it is just a ****ty concrete jungle filled with people who are stuck in the consumerism cycle and rat race of an economy that isn’t long term sustainable.
Most of that is rambling and silly..........you are rationalizing your choice to opt-out.
Top pro-athletes making more than teachers is easy to explain via simple supply and demand. If if Luka Doncic quit tomorrow there would literally be no one able to replace him well. Teachers not the same.
Most of that is rambling and silly..........you are rationalizing your choice to opt-out.
Top pro-athletes making more than teachers is easy to explain via simple supply and demand. If if Luka Doncic quit tomorrow there would literally be no one able to replace him well. Teachers not the same.
Our culture is changing, for the better thankfully. We worship sports players like they are gods, wearing their names on our backs, star struck if we see a famous one out in public.
Yet it’s the blue collar people that run this country. I like the movie A Bronx Tale when C is told from Sonny, Mickey Mantel doesn’t give a crap about you”
There’s hope our culture will stop worshipping over priced cry babies and start showing more appreciation for our police, teachers, and other public servants.
We have a culture where most people know about their favorite football player’s personal life then their local representative and senator they vote for.
Just don't come asking for income subsidies from the productive among us once you are elderly because you made a conscious decision to work less & earn less & save less during your prime working years. If you haven't saved for your elderly years, you can eat lawn clippings when you're 70.
Personally, I would rather add more value to society by contributing more to GDP throughout my lifetime, but that's my personal preference.
A lot of people unfortunately who do everything right and play by the traditional rules will still be in a similar circumstance.
I will have to start some sort of business eventually that can generate enough passive income, or just work on and off until I’m too old and sick to do so and then perhaps end my own life ethically and humanely, which some states actually allow these days. Right now you can’t qualify without having a terminal illness. Eventually though they may broaden the criteria for eligibility to perhaps include dire financial situations. So for example let’s say you’re over 80 years old, just mentally tired and worn down with a net worth of less then 50k you can humanly end your life with just a pill. I’m down for that. I don’t want to be a burden on society when I’m not giving back any value.
But just systematically saving from a job I hate for 40 years just to rot slowly away in some crappy nursing home…yea no thanks.
Our culture is changing, for the better thankfully. We worship sports players like they are gods, wearing their names on our backs, star struck if we see a famous one out in public.
Yet it’s the blue collar people that run this country. I like the movie A Bronx Tale when C is told from Sonny, Mickey Mantel doesn’t give a crap about you”
There’s hope our culture will stop worshipping over priced cry babies and start showing more appreciation for our police, teachers, and other public servants.
We have a culture where most people know about their favorite football player’s personal life then their local representative and senator they vote for.
Your generation hates cops.....tells teachers that expecting correct math answers is racist etc. You do worship at the alter of bureaucrats tho.
Blue collar types simply do not run the country.....that's romantic fantasy.
Let's do this a different way. How about you explain to me how the participation in the labor force can be as low as it is, and maybe you can explain to me how so many people are actually unemployed, yet there is a worker shortage. Would you care to explain that to me?
If as you say, $12 isn't enough to live on... I'm pretty sure it's more than living on $0. So there must be money coming from somewhere, please enlighten me.
This is hilarious. Are you really questioning whether or not I've worked for McDonalds, CompUSA, and Scotty's Hardware? Like... what kind of strategy is this to convince me that socialism is where we need to be?
I've dealt with all kinds of customers ... I don't understand what that has to do with anything. If you have a low self esteem, and you are bothered by some fat dude yelling at you because he wants you to put cheese on the McLean Deluxe so it'll be cheaper than the Quarter Pounder, then that's a whole other problem, not McDonalds. They put rubber mats behind the register, and those rollout rubber pads with the holes in them for people in drive through. Every McDonalds in every country I've ever visited has those mats. I think it might even be an OSHA requirement at this point. I know because I had to lift them before I mopped the floors when we closed.
Yeah, these are not hard jobs. It's constant moving, and free food... but at the end of the day, I go home without having to worry about work.
Have you ever spent time in Afghanistan, or some **** hole in the jungle of Central America, wondering if you're going to get shot the next day? With your ramshackle hooch completely swarmed with flying termites?
Good sir, I enjoyed my time at McDonalds. I also enjoyed my time at CompUSA, and got to sell Tom Brokaw his copy of Windows 95 (though I had no clue who he was at the time cause I was a kid and didn't watch the news).
Scotty's Hardware, was a fantastic job. I loved putting together BBQ grills and learning about all the new tools. I didn't have a lot of money, but I got great discounts on tools and I learned how to work on my own car.
It's about perspective. You seem to be someone who thinks of people as victims.
Victims are people who are born into poverty in a country who's government actively suppresses their freedoms, right to work, and ability to live their lives. The United States... if we can keep it that way, is not one of those countries.
I have NO sympathy for someone who is poor in the United States. And I don't think catering to laziness like the many (since-turned) socialist countries in Europe are a good example of how we need to be.
This country wasn't built on socialism, it was built on hard work and dedication. Meritocracy.
The fact that you even push victimhood is utterly pathetic to me. I honestly don't think we could ever be friends if we met in person, because I don't like to surround myself with people who blame others for their problems.
Some people are born into success, others not so much. But it's incumbent on each other to determine our fate.
Duh, people with mental incapacities, mental retardation, etc... are victims of circumstance. And we have programs for that. An able-bodied and mentally sound person living in poverty in the United States has absolutely no excuse whatsoever. There are so many programs, so many opportunities. We need more criminal justice reform, because the stigma of a jail sentence often prevents people from recovering from mistakes... but that's something that's improving every day as people recognize it as a problem. But there's no excuse. There are dozens, and dozens of careers and trades that people can do and learn easily... and then have tons of work.
Before I ever pay anyone to do anything, I do the work myself. I can lay tile, sweat pipes, shingle a house, install wood flooring, hang a door, install drywall... I've personally rebuilt several engines from a LD9 TwinCam, to an Olds 455 Big Block. I'm a computer programmer, a cyber security engineer. I have multiple engineering degrees, I'm working on a law degree right now because I'm having a mid-life crisis and want to change my career fields. I became a millionaire earlier this year for the first time in my life. I worked my ass off my entire life... no one gave me anything except a solid up-bringing and good advice. And yes... I think I'm totally awesome, and immensely proud of myself.
So when you ask me if I ever got bothered from rude customers... please, please... no, I'm not bothered by rude customers. Because at the end of the day, they have to wipe their own ass like everyone else except Eddie Murphy.
No doubt there are a lot of jobs and careers I just disagree with any person can do. You have to have the IQ and skills to do certain jobs there are a lot of people who all they can is basic jobs no fault of these people. Also there is the fact there is just not enough higher paying jobs for everyone to move up to so yes a lot of people can move up but not everyone.
No doubt there are a lot of jobs and careers I just disagree with any person can do. You have to have the IQ and skills to do certain jobs there are a lot of people who all they can is basic jobs no fault of these people. Also there is the fact there is just not enough higher paying jobs for everyone to move up to so yes a lot of people can move up but not everyone.
Shockingly, the IQ of about half of all people falls below the median.
Most of that is rambling and silly..........you are rationalizing your choice to opt-out.
Check out reddit r/antiwork
1.2M and counting...
Google "Lie Flat" movement in China.
You can remain in denial and believe it's an individual problem or choice, but the system is flawed and young people are not buying the BS.
Wake up, these labor force participation trends don't lie.
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