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Old 12-12-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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i wont make a call on where longer term bonds will go ….even with the feds tapering so much hinges on what equities do ….a flight to safety can see an inverted yield curve

 
Old 12-12-2021, 08:25 AM
 
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it may be safer to hide in certain stocks than fixed income.
not growth stocks with no revenue and no profit,some are in business with high burn rate,some have sales but lose money.
Beyond Meat,DoorDash and some EV and ecommerce startups !
Our local supermarket finally remove all Beyond Meat products
 
Old 12-12-2021, 08:26 AM
 
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stocks are never a proxy for cash or bonds
 
Old 12-12-2021, 10:56 AM
 
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The markets are heavily rigged and manipulated. Nothing is real anymore.
"that which I don't understand and fail at predicting accurately must be part of a conspiracy"
 
Old 12-12-2021, 10:58 AM
 
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"that which I don't understand and fail at predicting accurately must be part of a conspiracy"
like crypto is on the up and up. ha ha
 
Old 12-12-2021, 12:42 PM
 
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There are certainly speculative elements in the cryptos, but it doesn't change the fact that bitcoin (and gold) is one of only a few protections from fiat currency inflation, used by all major economies since the early 20th century to steal from savers.
 
Old 12-12-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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There are certainly speculative elements in the cryptos, but it doesn't change the fact that bitcoin (and gold) is one of only a few protections from fiat currency inflation, used by all major economies since the early 20th century to steal from savers.
i agree , and i own gold via gld , bitcoin via gbtc and commodities via dbc as my hedges
 
Old 12-12-2021, 04:30 PM
 
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what do you think of MSTR,it has oodles of bitcoins?
Did the CEO say what he plans to do with all those bitcoins,as they borrowed money to buy them?
 
Old 12-14-2021, 07:08 PM
 
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If the respective governments cannot control the bitcoins operations, they will eventually ban them all.
Already months ago, I read somewhere that China had made it illegal to invest in bitcoins.
Following the action of Singapore MAS (Monetary Authority), Binance Asia Services will be shutting down its operation by next February the 13th, as it could be violating the Payment Services Act in that country.

Binance founder, Zhao, is a Canadian citizenship but has been based in Singapore for the past two years. Mentioned somewhere, Binance will not proceed with its operation in Ontario.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-13/binance-singapore-withdraws-application-for-local-crypto-bourse-kx3z16pn
Binance Drops Singapore Cryptocurrency Bourse Application
By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen
December 12, 2021, 5:02 PM PST


Would greatly appreciate it, if anyone has an updated chart on S&P500 to share than the one below.
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Old 12-15-2021, 02:47 PM
 
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If the respective governments cannot control the bitcoins operations, they will eventually ban them all.
Already months ago, I read somewhere that China had made it illegal to invest in bitcoins.
Following the action of Singapore MAS (Monetary Authority), Binance Asia Services will be shutting down its operation by next February the 13th, as it could be violating the Payment Services Act in that country.

Binance founder, Zhao, is a Canadian citizenship but has been based in Singapore for the past two years. Mentioned somewhere, Binance will not proceed with its operation in Ontario.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-13/binance-singapore-withdraws-application-for-local-crypto-bourse-kx3z16pn
Binance Drops Singapore Cryptocurrency Bourse Application
By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen
December 12, 2021, 5:02 PM PST


Would greatly appreciate it, if anyone has an updated chart on S&P500 to share than the one below.
You might find this chart more informative:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/sp-500-market-crashes/

As for bitcoin, consider the total number of holders, which includes institutions and ETF holders. I think it has reached a saturation level. That is, I would not assume it is going to be "banned" or become worthless. "Digital scarcity" is a risky concept, and its requisite volatility is deserved, but does it mean it is headed to extinction? Time will tell, but if I had to bet, I would say no.
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