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Old 06-04-2022, 07:10 AM
Location: Just West of Wonder
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Originally Posted by cttransplant85 View Post

This number is shocking. Your nations wealth and quality of life is based off how productive you are. More productivity more goods and services more choice producing an excess which can be sold internationally driving real growth. We compete with China who literally has slave labor. Americans, who were historically known for their work ethic, now don’t want to work or won’t work as hard. How do we fix this issue?
Can’t be fixed .

Reasons are plenty IMO :
*social media plays a big role-everyone wants fame and fast fortune
*legalization and easy access of drugs made people lazy
*price of homes are out of reach for most working class -so what’s the point .
*internet uncovering the truth of corruption in business
*crushing stigma of the trades
*no pride in country
*everyone is a selfish pig and care nothing about their surroundings
*middle class is toast , only haves and have nots
*less people are having families -no need for a support plan

The list goes on , but all this is a direct descendent of the invention of the internet, also The ethical generation with values has either died off or retired.
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Old 06-04-2022, 09:47 PM
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Originally Posted by Wolverine607 View Post
Worker shortages and people not taking jobs is a massive problem. Its a massive reason why gasoline prices are absurdly high as they do not have enough truckers and refinery workers to produce enough.
And yet the oil companies are making record profits.
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Old 06-05-2022, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
a consequence of the shift to working from home.
That sounds intellectually dishonest and lazy. Ie start with a conclusion like working from home is bad, and find data that paints that picture and say gotcha.

Maybe productivity is lower because workers were arbitrarily forced back into the office multiple days per week? Instead of logging in, they now have a stressful hour commute and have been up 2 hours getting to the point they can fossilize their ass into a chair? Or maybe it’s lower because they now won’t work from home extra because they’re told you can only actually work in the office?

Maybe the people forced back are water cooler talking and useless smoozers who are now back in their element being useless and driving down productivity?

Maybe there’s an older generation that is extremely wealthy and have lost all fear of their employers due to their financial independence and are driving down productivity.

Maybe there’s also a max exodus of experienced workers and turnover in general. All of this churn and new people is lower productivity. Some older workers can’t be replaced well with the enormous value they provide.

Maybe the worker shortage and supply chain issues are disrupting productivity and making people do work they shouldn’t be which disrupts the organization.

Maybe the younger workers taking on more, faster are disenfranchised watching older workers hang on and collect their enormous paycheck?

Do the “working from home must die crowd” actually have multi variable calculus that analyses the productivity decline and give each variable a correlation coefficient to see if there’s actually data to suggest that’s the cause?

Or do they just say “make ‘em come back.”

But maybe making them come back creates more turnover…more new employees…and forces your actual most productive employees out the door whether they choose to work from home or the office?

It seems rather outrageous to say productivity is down…it must be the working from home.

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Old 06-09-2022, 04:29 AM
Location: Sector 001
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They pay people for FMLA here so of course many abuse it and they never fire these people. It annoys the hard workers to the point they stop giving a crap. Some of them quit.

Interesting fact... in my plant they hired 22 people. 3 never showed up, and 6 quit after one or two days, despite the fact we all make at least $20/hour here. $20/hour doesn't go far when you can't find a home for under $300K.

Why work when dumbass QE tards blew up their asset bubbles and made everything not affordable? Go pound sand MMT tards.
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Old 06-12-2022, 04:50 AM
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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Covid lockdowns and indiscriminate cash stimulus payments spawned dangerous thinking. Add in vague calls for equity and now we have a workforce crisis in many areas. People are demanding work from home rights for jobs that cannot be done efficiently or physically from home. We have critical shortages throughout the supply chain for food items, baby formula, personal care products, key subcomponents of manufactured products as well as critical shortages of truck drivers, longshoremen, dock workers, farmers, police, security personnel, and other critical personnel serving our nation. Nearly every job category has seen significant increases in starting salaries. Continued large hourly and salary increases are unsustainable and is a contributing (and lasting) component of the inflation we are experiencing.

A simple example, we can't even get cream, half and half or non dairy creamers produced due to labor shortages. Milk prices have risen dramatically as well. Traditionally, we produced so much dairy as a nation that farmers were paid to not produce it. Everything is upside down. The federal government cannot pass anymore legislation that encourages workers to remain on the sidelines. In fact the opposite is needed. Policy should be passed that encourages seniors to temporarily re-enter the workforce and the cap on Social Security earnings should be eliminated for those taking jobs in identified shortage areas. The federal tax exemption should be doubled on Social Security earnings as well. For those who work full time, the interest on their student loans could be fully deductible in addition to their standard deduction (the proposal to pay off the debts would add to fiscal contributors to inflation).

America was built on innovative, productive, and contributing citizens. We need to find our way back.

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Old 06-12-2022, 05:15 AM
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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Originally Posted by sholomar View Post
$20/hour doesn't go far when you can't find a home for under $300K.
It's a which came first the chicken or the egg conundrum? If the cement workers, construction workers, tradesmen, material production workers, truck drivers, etc.., do not fill positions then the cost of the materials and construction of new homes rises substantially. This puts pressure on existing home prices. High stock prices and low interest rates on savings funnel more investors in raw land and existing homes. Add in the problems that Covid caused in cities and many people with the means have now entered the second home market in large numbers as well. AirBnB and other short-term rental platforms have brought investors small and large into the single family home market too.

There are many areas of the country, particularly in the Midwest where land and/or homes are relatively affordable. This is the reason why a company like Intel recently picked an area outside Columbus, Ohio to build its new foundry. If we can solve the worker shortage problem the cost of the inputs will come down. Businesses selecting lower cost areas like Intel did should drive people to move there. This should promote development in those areas making them more desirable and at the same time slowing demand in competing markets that have become overheated due to a shortage of supply.
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