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Old 08-11-2022, 12:23 PM
 
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That price was decided by the manufacturer because people are paying it. YOU may not want to, but others clearly are. It is supply and demand. Always. That's how it works.

Which part of "I am willing to pay MSRP" do you not understand?
Guess what MSRP stands for.
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm looking for an EV and scoured the entire state for a Nissan Leaf, cheapest EV available after tax incentives.
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Which part of "I am willing to pay MSRP" do you not understand?.
Are you willing to pay the FULL MSRP price without the tax incentives, or only if your fellow taxpayers help subsidize it for you?
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:30 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I can afford the car.
I just won't pay above MSRP on principle.

That is absolutely fair. Your choice. You don't have to pay more than MSRP. Just walk away and don't buy a car.



Who knows? If you wait, maybe things will loosen up and later on the car will be available for MSRP. It's worth a try. Wait and see.
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:40 PM
 
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SUGGESTED retail price
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:44 PM
 
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You need to get educated on car purchasing and running a business. Do you really think dealerships sell at cost to customers?
Of course most of the time they are selling the car for more than they paid. But they can sell at invoice and still make money depending on a number of factors. Manufacturer rebates and incentives. Financing. Protection plans and warranties. Gap coverage. I'm well aware of how car dealerships work.

Didn't answer the question. You said MSRP is the fair price and unethical for dealer to leverage market conditions to charge more. Wouldn't it follow then that you leveraging conditions to pay less than MSRP be equally unethical?
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Warwick, RI
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I can afford the car.
I just won't pay above MSRP on principle.
Then you won't get the car. If the car dealer is being greedy for asking the price they want for the car, aren't you also being greedy for not wanting to part with your money for it??? I actually think you're being smart by walking on the deal - I would have too, but the part where you spout off about "capitalism being greed" and "stealership" just makes you sound childish.

Forget the EV and save yourself some money and go buy a nice, used ICE car.
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:47 PM
 
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It’s too greedy to get a higher paying job. It’s better to just sell to the lowest bidder for your labor that comes around just because they want labor really really bad.
BINGO! The sarcasm is palatable.

"I can't afford it therefore it is greed."
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:50 PM
 
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Which part of "I am willing to pay MSRP" do you not understand?
Guess what MSRP stands for.
Manufacturers SUGGESTED Retail Price. What about SUGGESTED don't you understand?
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Old 08-11-2022, 12:52 PM
 
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Which part of "I am willing to pay MSRP" do you not understand?
Guess what MSRP stands for.
I completely understand what you are saying. What you are not understanding is that "this is how it works". You can pay a price, OR NOT. You are choosing to NOT PAY. Your choice.

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Old 08-11-2022, 01:10 PM
 
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Car dealer used to sell say 500 cars a month and didn't mark cars up from MSRP. Of course there are invoice price games but lets ignore those for now and assume they made $2,000 net on each car they sold. Dealer now sells 50 cars a month because inventory is limited. Dealer tries to make up for it with 3k increase. They make $5,000 net on a car now, but their net revenue on cars being sold is $250,000. Before with less per car they generated $1,000,000 per month. But now is the time they are greedy?
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