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Trillions upon trillions needed to pay for over two years worth of all sort of “enhanced” unemployment were printed by Uncle Joe&Co, you can thank him for inflation resulting in a $30,000 Corolla.
Over 1 trillion dollars was spent on covid relief both by Trump and Biden. Neither one had a thing to do with the price of cars, most of the increase in price of vehicles was caused by a chip shortage. Your animus toward Joe Biden is obvious, but it would behoove you to find something based in reality to blame him for rather than grasping at straws.
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Around here the big warehouse district is in Kent, WA. The average apartment there is $1,921 for 854 sf. That would require (1/3 rule) a monthly income of $5,763, which is $36/hour for 40 hours. At this new $19 the workers will still need a working spouse or roommates to afford living there, and Kent is one of the lowest cost cities in the region. Perhaps a dollar increase sounds good, but that's probably what it's meant to do. It really isn't much help to anyone but Amazon, since it will help attract workers from fast food and retail that make less.
Well Fast food was invented to do an end around of the more skilled and higher paid short order cooks that used to staff hamburger joints and diners. So yeah, engineers invented ways to de-skill cooking.
However, when I worked fast food, some people did wash out, unable to handle the pace and conditions. But to do it didn't take much brainpower or pre-existing skill because that was the point of fast food.
At some point it doesn't matter how easy a job is. If there's nowhere affordable to live within 50 miles, you have to raise your wage rate. Amazon wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have to.
Ironically, you guys don't want immigration which would be a source of labor that would accept low wages. The other choice is to significantly raise wages. Ross Perot talked about this 30 years ago. American-born labor is hella expensive. Amazon isn't immune to this. They're not raising the rate out of the goodness of their heart.
What's crazy is that I think many of you would not mind a form of slavery. You seem to think employers are entitled to labor as if the labor market is not a market.
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Well Fast food was invented to do an end around of the more skilled and higher paid short order cooks that used to staff hamburger joints and diners. So yeah, engineers invented ways to de-skill cooking.
However, when I worked fast food, some people did wash out, unable to handle the pace and conditions. But to do it didn't take much brainpower or pre-existing skill because that was the point of fast food.
At some point it doesn't matter how easy a job is. If there's nowhere affordable to live within 50 miles, you have to raise your wage rate. Amazon wouldn't be doing this if they didn't have to.
Ironically, you guys don't want immigration which would be a source of labor that would accept low wages. The other choice is to significantly raise wages. Ross Perot talked about this 30 years ago. American-born labor is hella expensive. Amazon isn't immune to this. They're not raising the rate out of the goodness of their heart.
What's crazy is that I think many of you would not mind a form of slavery. You seem to think employers are entitled to labor as if the labor market is not a market.
I favor a high-wage, high-cost, high-skill economy. Think a continent-sized Switzerland.
There is a large faction, a majority on the right probably, who want lots of low-wage, low-skill workers. There's probably some psychological satisfaction from being served by others, but honestly I think it's mostly just frugality and wanting to minimize spending.
I think that stance makes an unbalanced economy, where demand is stifled because of the paradox of thrift and there's not enough money circulating.
I favor a high-wage, high-cost, high-skill economy. Think a continent-sized Switzerland.
There is a large faction, a majority on the right probably, who want lots of low-wage, low-skill workers. There's probably some psychological satisfaction from being served by others, but honestly I think it's mostly just frugality and wanting to minimize spending.
I think that stance makes an unbalanced economy, where demand is stifled because of the paradox of thrift and there's not enough money circulating.
That’s nice but what are you going to do with the uneducated, unskilled, barely employable underclass?
That’s nice but what are you going to do with the uneducated, unskilled, barely employable underclass?
It is not the skills of the workers, but rather how do we entice people to work in less favorable conditions when other options exists due to baby bust and longer in retirement lifetimes. Slavery is out of the question which leaves offer people more to work the graveyard shifts that are needed so folks can get a package delivered to them the next day. Sure robots are coming, but today the computer and software is good enough to monitor itself while the industrial robots needed to make the last mile delivery are not.
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