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Old 03-06-2023, 01:19 PM
 
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IHOP is much cheaper and under rated IMO.
I just looked at their menu. I agree with you. For example, for $8.99, actual food: a veggie and real turkey (rather than processed crap):

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Old 03-06-2023, 01:36 PM
 
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I just looked at their menu. I agree with you. For example, for $8.99, actual food: a veggie and real turkey (rather than processed crap):
that is 18.99 at our ihop across the street from us

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Old 03-06-2023, 01:40 PM
 
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that is 18.99 at our ihop across the street from us
And $10.99 where I'm at.

This used to be $5.99:

https://www.ihop.com/en/menu/55and-menu/55and-2-x-2-x-2
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Old 03-06-2023, 01:45 PM
 
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And $10.99 where I'm at.

This used to be $5.99:

https://www.ihop.com/en/menu/55and-menu/55and-2-x-2-x-2
when i click on your link it says 13.99 ha ha
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Old 03-06-2023, 02:02 PM
 
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when i click on your link it says 13.99 ha ha
It did ask me for my location, so prices for the same thing must vary.
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Old 03-06-2023, 02:42 PM
 
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when i click on your link it says 13.99 ha ha
That one is $6.99 here.

$13.49 for the turkey (not on the 55+ menu)
$9.79 on the 55+, but it shows less calories, so I assume its smaller portions.
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Old 03-06-2023, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Increase minimum wage? Yes, we should.
Silly idea, especially if you expect it to fix SS

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What we really need is lower cost housing and health care.

NIMBYs and excessive regulations serve to keep housing costs unnecessarily high. And we all know health care in the U.S. is a complete rip off. Although we could do a lot on our own as 70% of our health care costs are related to poor food choices and lack of exercise.

https://www.businessinsider.com/econ...-causes-2023-1

"Western housing shortages do not just prevent many from ever affording their own home. They also drive inequality, climate change, low productivity growth, obesity, and even falling fertility rates,"
Again - not much of a way to fix SS.

Excessive regulations that reduce housing availability include things like rent control that impacts willingness to build rentals. Blaming housing for other issues is also very silly.

US healthcare is not a complete rip off - paying for health care and research associated is expensive, just hidden in high taxes on even the poor in many countries where they can pay half of their income in taxes for that "free" healthcare - it is all a matter of when pay.
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Old 03-06-2023, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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I largely agree with you. However, if it becomes a question of reducing benefits I would reluctantly look to the general fund as a means of maintaining social security. I hope we don't have to go there, but one alternative is better than the other.
It is not a choice of reduce benefits or pay from general fund - the better choice is to fix it by raising taxes or reducing benefits without changing how it is funded. The most political favorable move would be to increase payments by making more income subject to tax without increasing the max benefit and raising the retirement age for full benefits.
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Old 03-06-2023, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Many people probably feel it's okay to phase out benefits at some level higher than their own income. I'll bet there are plenty who feel it's okay to eliminate SS benefits for anyone with $60k in other income. They've never earned $60k/year in their whole life and can't see why anyone should need more.

Also, there are ways to get around the income thresholds, at least for a while. If SS benefits were phased out based on income we'd see a huge shift into Roth accounts, and some older people would just start piling up money in their bank account or hoarding physical cash in their home (not a good idea, of course).
Wow, $60K in other income is really too low to be able to even afford to live in some places - my house payments alone are over $60K. This kind of idea also punishes those who planned for retirement and discourages younger folk from saving also. To move money into a Roth, you have to pay taxes on it and it becomes earned money (income). Someone selling their house or business would be discouraged from doing so because they would lose their income from SS. Also many earn over $60K just from SS - just because some never earned over $60K doesn't mean that we should punish those that do.

Phasing out benefits is not a good idea, they were earned - SS is supposed to be a safety net not a welfare program.
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Old 03-06-2023, 04:26 PM
 
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60k in nyc qualifies you for a low income housing project
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