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Old 03-19-2023, 08:14 AM
 
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1. No maybe to it.

2. How does increased government debt and increased money supply overwhelm consumer and business debt?

There is no broad lack of liquidity ergo the .gov's borrowing isn't crowding out those in the private sector.

Interest on federal debt as a percentage of GDP is way down vs. the span from '85-'95.

Everyone here knows The Fed. creates money by keystroke.

Your info. may have been easy to find. I don't believe in it means what you think it means.
OK, if you think endless government debt and money printing are no problem, go right ahead believing that. Nothing I say is going to change your mind.
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Old 03-19-2023, 08:27 AM
 
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USA actually 'rocketed' out of 2008 economic crisis, about as fast as we had collapsed.
The recovery from the 2008 recession was much slower than from other recessions.
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Old 03-19-2023, 09:50 AM
 
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My balance sheet certainly has gone up substantially since 2008.

I still think the economic growth we've had is all or mostly a hoax.

Sure, the GDP grew, mostly because of debt and money printing, which is not sustainable in the long run. No one knows where the tipping point will be until after it is reached.
Your balance sheet may have gone up but your purchasing power has taken a hit in the last two years.
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Old 03-19-2023, 10:04 AM
 
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Your balance sheet may have gone up but your purchasing power has taken a hit in the last two years.
Yes, it has.

But tracking back to 2008, I certainly have more in inflation adjusted terms than I did then, and that was the time period I was referring to in my previous response to mathjak.
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Old 03-19-2023, 10:59 AM
 
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The recovery from the 2008 recession was much slower than from other recessions.
You are forgetting massive consumer debt.
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Old 03-19-2023, 11:13 AM
 
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There was a lot of economic growth from 2010-2019. It just mostly went to the top 1% instead of the middle-class.
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Old 03-19-2023, 12:54 PM
 
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You are forgetting massive consumer debt.
Incorrect. I'm not forgetting anything whatsoever. You're forgetting the price of tea in China.
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Old 03-19-2023, 12:55 PM
 
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There was a lot of economic growth from 2010-2019. It just mostly went to the top 1% instead of the middle-class.
Incorrect.

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Old 03-19-2023, 01:01 PM
 
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OK, if you think endless government debt and money printing are no problem, go right ahead believing that. Nothing I say is going to change your mind.
Endless government spending would be MMT......we don't have that.
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Old 03-19-2023, 01:04 PM
 
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You are forgetting massive consumer debt.
Massive again.

Household debt v. GDP

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...united-states/
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