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Old 07-03-2008, 09:49 AM
 
Location: U.S.
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I dont recall YOU, calling a 60 year old home a "McMansion", so your sarcasm adds nothing to the thread.
No - my sarcasm centers around YOU - telling us that WE are envious of your class. Didn't realize we had queen elizabeth living in the U.S.
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:55 AM
 
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What are you all capping on pghquest, about?

Didn't pghquest pick this up beasty up from some foreclosure auction or short sale or something?

(sorry if I do not have that correct -- seems like I recall that from the real estate section).

Helped buy a 250,000 million square foot hospital with 17 acres on REO auction on time, just for fun. We got it for $40,000.

Not like pghquest laid plans to build the Taj Mahal on the kids' welfare school lunch money or something.
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:13 PM
 
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pghguest is right, in my opinion. A large home in itself isn't a McMansion - that term implies a sort of ostentatiousness of design combined with cheap, modern construction that emphasizes return on profit over quality of workmanship.
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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pghguest is right, in my opinion. A large home in itself isn't a McMansion - that term implies a sort of ostentatiousness of design combined with cheap, modern construction that emphasizes return on profit over quality of workmanship.
Your words " Modern Construction" should not be used , as , you statement could imply that anything modern is cheap , or sub standard , not so.
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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What is or isn't a "mansion" is vague. I don't consider a bunch of cheaply made wood frame houses Mansions. But maybe that is just me. The homes in the picture just look like bigger versions of the McMansions they've been building all over Southern California.
Now you're just being silly.

What I posted were true, authentic mansions. Many (if not all) custom built.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles Area
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Thats the way most all home are made today.
I'm talking about Mansions so how they build a standard home is not the point. Most real Mansions even in California aren't just big version of McMansions.

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I'm not sure if it's possible to build a large house these days that wouldn't be immediately labeled as one.
There is a pretty clear difference I think. Real Mansions are usually custom built/designed homes (and really custom, not pick your tile custom). The more popular architecture you get to design the home the better. McMansions on the other hand are track homes that mimic some of the features of real Mansions. Usually in McMansion communities most of the homes will be in the 2500~4000 sf range and rather close together, but they do put some larger McMansions on bigger lots that don't work well for the former sort. At least this is what they tend to do in California.

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What I posted were true, authentic mansions. Many (if not all) custom built.
Again clearly we have a different notion of what a Mansion is. I don't think the home pictured is a McMansion though. The other ones seemed to be though.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles Area
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Gas prices will be high when I sell my home.
Can I have your crystal ball?

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Anyone who calls 60 year old homes "McMansions" simply because its large does so because they are uneducated about what "McMansions" terminology means.
I don't recall anybody making this claim on this thread. Big house /= McMansion.

"Big house" isn't a class issue. A rather middle class family could afford a huge house on a big lot in many areas of the country, where as in others not even afford a 1000 sf house. As far as class goes its the location of the house that matters not the size.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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There is a pretty clear difference I think. Real Mansions are usually custom built/designed homes (and really custom, not pick your tile custom). The more popular architecture you get to design the home the better. McMansions on the other hand are track homes that mimic some of the features of real Mansions. Usually in McMansion communities most of the homes will be in the 2500~4000 sf range and rather close together, but they do put some larger McMansions on bigger lots that don't work well for the former sort. At least this is what they tend to do in California.
My house is 2618 sf. Wow... I live in a McMansion!

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Again clearly we have a different notion of what a Mansion is. I don't think the home pictured is a McMansion though. The other ones seemed to be though
You said above that real mansions are custom built/designed homes. That is exactly how the homes in the photos were built.
From what I've read, McMansion are large homes built on a small lot. The homes in the photos I posted are large homes built on a large lot.
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:43 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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While the home talk is nice we are getting way off topic here.


A good friend of mine has a Jeep Grand Cherokee that she enjoys driving and I asked her once on how the gas prices was affecting her. She did mention that next time she does car shopping she will try to look into something that is fuel efficient but she does love driving her Jeep, because it fits her. Of course though she carries alot of her work stuff and alot of equipment for the chorus she's in, so she makes good use of her Jeep space-wise. Plus she also uses her Jeep to carpool some of the chorus members to rehearsals so for those purposes, she doesn't feel trapped at all.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles Area
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My house is 2618 sf. Wow... I live in a McMansion!
If you live in Porter Ranch then yes, most likely you do. Not all 2600 sf homes are McMansions though. But if you like it thats all that matters, I was imply pointing out that Porter Ranch is not LA. There is nothing urban about Porter Ranch (Does public transportation even go up there??)

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That is exactly how the homes in the photos were built.
From my understanding of that area, no are only semi-custom. Custom built/designed = buying the land, hiring an architecture, etc etc. Where as these sorts of homes are built by developers and are custom only in a cosmetic way (Although they give you far more choices than you would buying a new track home).
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