Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-07-2008, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
7,943 posts, read 17,244,040 times
Reputation: 4686

Advertisements

Its on its way back up in European trading - over $141.50 now. I think at best we can hope for stabilization in the 140s for the time being.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-07-2008, 09:00 PM
 
Location: New York City
229 posts, read 1,180,238 times
Reputation: 158
There isn't a bubble. There is not a glut of stored oil anywhere.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2008, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
7,943 posts, read 17,244,040 times
Reputation: 4686
Quote:
Originally Posted by newyorkdoc View Post
There isn't a bubble. There is not a glut of stored oil anywhere.
You generally don't know bubbles for sure until after they burst, as it appears to investors that it is the real deal. Its the same way with oil. However, the run from $50 to $150 in a year without any real reason such as a war in Iran is absurd and unsustainable.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2008, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,436,896 times
Reputation: 27720
Looks like Lehman is out of the oil trading business for a while..they've been barred from one of the key unregulated market traders while they are under review. Now this is not Lehman trading for it's customers..this is Lehman trading for itself.

This just adds a little credence to the hype that all that Fed borrowing is being plowed into commodities so the banks can make back some money.

Platts review bars Lehman from key oil trade window | Markets | Reuters
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2008, 09:12 PM
 
5,760 posts, read 11,540,611 times
Reputation: 4949
Quote:
Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
You generally don't know bubbles for sure until after they burst, as it appears to investors that it is the real deal. Its the same way with oil. However, the run from $50 to $150 in a year without any real reason such as a war in Iran is absurd and unsustainable.
Except that . . . oh maybe . . . in real measurable numbers, demand is not meeting supply?

But I agree, the US will not sustain this game too long. We will be flat broke in a year or two.

Game over.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2008, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
7,943 posts, read 17,244,040 times
Reputation: 4686
I say we will go over $150 by the end of the week. We shoud top out at $160-170 before going down to $120-130 in the fall. I don't think we will hit $200 this year. We are already starting to see resistance as speculators try to find reasons to push the price higher.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip T View Post
Except that . . . oh maybe . . . in real measurable numbers, demand is not meeting supply?

But I agree, the US will not sustain this game too long. We will be flat broke in a year or two.

Game over.

Demand is meeting supply right now. Much of the price increase is hedges against inflation due to the falling dollar, and the fundamentals are that 5-10 years out, demand from China and India will have grown to a point where supply might not meet demand. However, a lot can happen in 5-10 years. Currently the fundamentals should support anywhere from $40 to $100 depending on who you ask, but only the most doom and gloom peak oilers really believe $150 is justified.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2008, 12:49 PM
 
655 posts, read 916,048 times
Reputation: 240
Told ya all so. Oil down about $10 a barrel in the past 48 hours! Damn, wish I had of shorted oil. should have listened to that oil executive, big wig! He says another $5-$6 and the panic selling will hit. Then a gradual, steady drop from there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2008, 12:52 PM
 
48,502 posts, read 96,810,437 times
Reputation: 18304
Oil bubble is just like the housing will never go down ;people conning themselves in to believeing oil will crash. The fundalmentals are just not there. There is little surplus production left in the world.Each time there is instability of any kind where oil is produced in will spike.Then itwill never go down until inventories sabalize which can take a longtime. With China and india growing use we may see shortages in the fututre if we don't start doing something effective.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2008, 01:07 PM
 
78,326 posts, read 60,517,579 times
Reputation: 49616
Quote:
Originally Posted by bchris02 View Post
You generally don't know bubbles for sure until after they burst, as it appears to investors that it is the real deal. Its the same way with oil. However, the run from $50 to $150 in a year without any real reason such as a war in Iran is absurd and unsustainable.
Do you consider the devaluation of the US currency a real reason? I do.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-08-2008, 01:28 PM
 
717 posts, read 772,963 times
Reputation: 122
Quote:
Originally Posted by texdav View Post
Oil bubble is just like the housing will never go down ;people conning themselves in to believeing oil will crash. The fundalmentals are just not there. There is little surplus production left in the world.Each time there is instability of any kind where oil is produced in will spike.Then itwill never go down until inventories sabalize which can take a longtime. With China and india growing use we may see shortages in the fututre if we don't start doing something effective.
Housing will never go down? Maybe I do not understand what you are saying but how can you say housing will never go down?
The fundamentals in oil are just not there to support a 50% return on investment over 1 year. .

Last edited by AJGIANTS; 07-08-2008 at 01:31 PM.. Reason: addition
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:49 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top