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Old 07-17-2008, 11:04 PM
 
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Getting Married for Better Health Coverage and Other Tales From the Insurance Mess.

I confess. Despite the fact that my longtime beau and I haven't felt the need to say "I do," I've fantasized about getting hitched solely for the health insurance.

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Old 07-17-2008, 11:28 PM
 
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So did I.

And never regretted it for a minute.
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Old 07-18-2008, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Getting married for money is not a new phenomenon. In many ways it is the most practical way to gain access to a fortune. This is the primary reason the wealthy keep their kids sequestered in private schools and elite universities. This reduces the chance that an under class individual can marry into the family and dilute the privilege and the fortune.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:41 AM
 
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Getting married for money is not a new phenomenon. In many ways it is the most practical way to gain access to a fortune. This is the primary reason the wealthy keep their kids sequestered in private schools and elite universities. This reduces the chance that an under class individual can marry into the family and dilute the privilege and the fortune.
And here I am thinking that they sent their kids to private schools so that they can become better educated in order to take the family wealth and use it to make more..
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Old 07-18-2008, 11:52 AM
 
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BTW, I was the one with the insurance, and I loved her madly, still do, even though she's dead.
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:27 PM
 
Location: SC
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Getting Married for Better Health Coverage and Other Tales From the Insurance Mess.

I confess. Despite the fact that my longtime beau and I haven't felt the need to say "I do," I've fantasized about getting hitched solely for the health insurance.

ABC News: Will You Marry Me? (I Need Surgery)
As an independent insurance agent who has specialized in health insurance for nearly 20 years and take thousands of health histories from applicants AND as someone who began wondering 18 years ago why "health care" or more appropriately medical care if it is to be called what it actually is and does (treats symptoms of disease with medicine --or drugs) AND as someone who is widely read and who has EXTENSIVELY researched orthodox medicine as well as traditional natural medicine, I know A LOT of what "they don't want you to know".

What they don't want you to know about allopathic western medicine in this country is that it is dangerous and it KILLS probably millions of Americans EVERY YEAR. These are people that die following doctors orders. A study done by PhDs and MDs that compiled statistics from medical journals came out beginning in 2004 stated that back then based on only 5 to 20 percent of reported incidents 750,000 Americans died doing as their medical doctors told them to. You can see it with your own eyes. It even documents the medical journals the facts were reported in. Its at www.lef.org. Do a search for "Death by Medicine."

Another thing they don't want you to know is that people who think they NEED health insurance to pay for their medications for their chronic and degenerative diseases could, if they wanted to, seek out the care of a Naturopathic Doctor, an N.M.D. or and N.D. and actually regain their robust health so they no longer would NEED their prescriptions (or the insurance to pay for them.)

Of course we all need insurance for the unforseen terrible accident but if we know where to look, doctors can be found who actually know how to give us our health back and the Medical Doctor is not, nor will he ever be, the one to do that.

The people who understand the strengths and weaknesses of the various types of doctors and their training understand that Medical Doctors or M.D.s are only trained in allopathic medicine which just teaches the student how to treat acute illness with drugs and surgery. This training is needed to save people's lives who have ACUTE EMERGENCY imminent life or death issues.

On the other hand medical doctors have little training in health and NO training in diagnosing underlying causes of disease. For example, a person with cancer who sees an oncologist will be given three options which treat SYMPTOMS of the cancer ONLY. They are to: poison the cells with chemotherapy (along with the good healthy cells so the immune system which is badly needed for someone with cancer is further weakened); nuke the cells with radiation which also kills healthy cells or surgically remove the cells which tramatizes the body.

Furthermore, what NONE of these methods has done is address anything about what CAUSED the cancer to grow in the first place! Was it due to a trace mineral imbalance? a homonal imbalance? a food sensitivity?a virus still lurking in the body? Some other infection or any other of a number of causes? The medical doctor isn't trained to find CAUSES of disease. But you know who is? The Naturopath is. The NMD or ND by the way, also has YEARS of training in medical school just like an MD does. The ND however is trained to find underlying CAUSES of disease and by learning about the cause, then is trained to help the body's own immune system eliminate the cause. Once the cause of the disease is gone the disease goes away - permanently. You get your full health back when you go to an EXPERIENCED naturopath.

So you see, there is no need to marry for health insurance because you have a chronic disease and think you need insurance to pay for medication the rest of your life. Instead you can actually get healthy enough so you no longer need your medications and regain your complete health. All you need is the understanding of the limitations of the training of your conventional medical doctor and the knowledge that Naturopaths are the actual true blue experts when it comes to eliminating chronic and degnerative diseases. Whereas the medical doctors are the ones that are best trained to treat EMERGENCY situations ie vomiting blood, terrible wounds, heart attacks etc.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:54 PM
 
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I may marry my Xhubby for a reverse mortgage!
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:56 PM
 
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people that say these things are honest and open, the foundation of a genuine relationship.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:22 PM
 
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As an independent insurance agent who has specialized in health insurance for nearly 20 years and take thousands of health histories from applicants AND as someone who began wondering 18 years ago why "health care" or more appropriately medical care if it is to be called what it actually is and does (treats symptoms of disease with medicine --or drugs) AND as someone who is widely read and who has EXTENSIVELY researched orthodox medicine as well as traditional natural medicine, I know A LOT of what "they don't want you to know".

What they don't want you to know about allopathic western medicine in this country is that it is dangerous and it KILLS probably millions of Americans EVERY YEAR. These are people that die following doctors orders. A study done by PhDs and MDs that compiled statistics from medical journals came out beginning in 2004 stated that back then based on only 5 to 20 percent of reported incidents 750,000 Americans died doing as their medical doctors told them to. You can see it with your own eyes. It even documents the medical journals the facts were reported in. Its at www.lef.org. Do a search for "Death by Medicine."

Another thing they don't want you to know is that people who think they NEED health insurance to pay for their medications for their chronic and degenerative diseases could, if they wanted to, seek out the care of a Naturopathic Doctor, an N.M.D. or and N.D. and actually regain their robust health so they no longer would NEED their prescriptions (or the insurance to pay for them.)

Of course we all need insurance for the unforseen terrible accident but if we know where to look, doctors can be found who actually know how to give us our health back and the Medical Doctor is not, nor will he ever be, the one to do that.

The people who understand the strengths and weaknesses of the various types of doctors and their training understand that Medical Doctors or M.D.s are only trained in allopathic medicine which just teaches the student how to treat acute illness with drugs and surgery. This training is needed to save people's lives who have ACUTE EMERGENCY imminent life or death issues.

On the other hand medical doctors have little training in health and NO training in diagnosing underlying causes of disease. For example, a person with cancer who sees an oncologist will be given three options which treat SYMPTOMS of the cancer ONLY. They are to: poison the cells with chemotherapy (along with the good healthy cells so the immune system which is badly needed for someone with cancer is further weakened); nuke the cells with radiation which also kills healthy cells or surgically remove the cells which tramatizes the body.

Furthermore, what NONE of these methods has done is address anything about what CAUSED the cancer to grow in the first place! Was it due to a trace mineral imbalance? a homonal imbalance? a food sensitivity?a virus still lurking in the body? Some other infection or any other of a number of causes? The medical doctor isn't trained to find CAUSES of disease. But you know who is? The Naturopath is. The NMD or ND by the way, also has YEARS of training in medical school just like an MD does. The ND however is trained to find underlying CAUSES of disease and by learning about the cause, then is trained to help the body's own immune system eliminate the cause. Once the cause of the disease is gone the disease goes away - permanently. You get your full health back when you go to an EXPERIENCED naturopath.

So you see, there is no need to marry for health insurance because you have a chronic disease and think you need insurance to pay for medication the rest of your life. Instead you can actually get healthy enough so you no longer need your medications and regain your complete health. All you need is the understanding of the limitations of the training of your conventional medical doctor and the knowledge that Naturopaths are the actual true blue experts when it comes to eliminating chronic and degnerative diseases. Whereas the medical doctors are the ones that are best trained to treat EMERGENCY situations ie vomiting blood, terrible wounds, heart attacks etc.
If you haven't already read it, you will enjoy reading "Healthy at 100" by John Robbins. I purchased 10 copies to give them to loved ones. I just can't seem to get them to look past their Dunkin Donuts! I'll be living at 100 alone without any of my loved ones.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:37 PM
 
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As an independent insurance agent who has specialized in health insurance for nearly 20 years and take thousands of health histories from applicants AND as someone who began wondering 18 years ago why "health care" or more appropriately medical care if it is to be called what it actually is and does (treats symptoms of disease with medicine --or drugs) AND as someone who is widely read and who has EXTENSIVELY researched orthodox medicine as well as traditional natural medicine, I know A LOT of what "they don't want you to know".

What they don't want you to know about allopathic western medicine in this country is that it is dangerous and it KILLS probably millions of Americans EVERY YEAR. These are people that die following doctors orders. A study done by PhDs and MDs that compiled statistics from medical journals came out beginning in 2004 stated that back then based on only 5 to 20 percent of reported incidents 750,000 Americans died doing as their medical doctors told them to. You can see it with your own eyes. It even documents the medical journals the facts were reported in. Its at www.lef.org. Do a search for "Death by Medicine."

Another thing they don't want you to know is that people who think they NEED health insurance to pay for their medications for their chronic and degenerative diseases could, if they wanted to, seek out the care of a Naturopathic Doctor, an N.M.D. or and N.D. and actually regain their robust health so they no longer would NEED their prescriptions (or the insurance to pay for them.)

Of course we all need insurance for the unforseen terrible accident but if we know where to look, doctors can be found who actually know how to give us our health back and the Medical Doctor is not, nor will he ever be, the one to do that.

The people who understand the strengths and weaknesses of the various types of doctors and their training understand that Medical Doctors or M.D.s are only trained in allopathic medicine which just teaches the student how to treat acute illness with drugs and surgery. This training is needed to save people's lives who have ACUTE EMERGENCY imminent life or death issues.

On the other hand medical doctors have little training in health and NO training in diagnosing underlying causes of disease. For example, a person with cancer who sees an oncologist will be given three options which treat SYMPTOMS of the cancer ONLY. They are to: poison the cells with chemotherapy (along with the good healthy cells so the immune system which is badly needed for someone with cancer is further weakened); nuke the cells with radiation which also kills healthy cells or surgically remove the cells which tramatizes the body.

Furthermore, what NONE of these methods has done is address anything about what CAUSED the cancer to grow in the first place! Was it due to a trace mineral imbalance? a homonal imbalance? a food sensitivity?a virus still lurking in the body? Some other infection or any other of a number of causes? The medical doctor isn't trained to find CAUSES of disease. But you know who is? The Naturopath is. The NMD or ND by the way, also has YEARS of training in medical school just like an MD does. The ND however is trained to find underlying CAUSES of disease and by learning about the cause, then is trained to help the body's own immune system eliminate the cause. Once the cause of the disease is gone the disease goes away - permanently. You get your full health back when you go to an EXPERIENCED naturopath.

So you see, there is no need to marry for health insurance because you have a chronic disease and think you need insurance to pay for medication the rest of your life. Instead you can actually get healthy enough so you no longer need your medications and regain your complete health. All you need is the understanding of the limitations of the training of your conventional medical doctor and the knowledge that Naturopaths are the actual true blue experts when it comes to eliminating chronic and degnerative diseases. Whereas the medical doctors are the ones that are best trained to treat EMERGENCY situations ie vomiting blood, terrible wounds, heart attacks etc.

Great, who let the nutjobs out?
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