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Old 07-24-2008, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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From November 2006 at a mortgage broker's conference. Peter spoke in front of 1,000 mortgage brokers and told them why they'd be out of a job.

I'm particularly proud from 7:30 to the end, where he describes how he and his participating clients shorted CMOs. Thank God I found him before 2006 as implementing that advice alone allowed me to optionally retire at the tender age of 35


YouTube - Nov 2006 Peter Schiff Mortgage Bankers Speech Part 4 of 8
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Ain't private welfare wonderful?
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:34 AM
 
Location: America
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I love Schiff

Him Rubini, and Eric Janzen have been on the money through out this entire thing.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:44 AM
 
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. Thank God I found him before 2006 as implementing that advice alone allowed me to optionally retire at the tender age of 35


YouTube - Nov 2006 Peter Schiff Mortgage Bankers Speech Part 4 of 8

At 35, how much do you think is a sufficient amount of money to retire on?
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:55 AM
 
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I do like Peter Schiff, and think that he's been a voice of reason in recent years, but sometimes I think his forecasts are overly gloomy... but hey that sells books and EuroPacific products.

My major problem is that he states up until 2000, housing prices closely mirrored the CPI. Since then they've gone crazy far exceeding the CPI.

Later he'll state that since the 90's, the CPI has been useless because of the way that the gov't toys with the numbers, and that inflationary rates have been much higher than stated. If that's the case, than housing prices maybe haven't risen quite as drastically out of whack, and aren't likely to fall back to below pre-2000 levels, in my opinion.

To me the biggest question is how far will interest rates rise. If fixed interest rates were to raise from 6% to 10%, the purchasing power of a buyer would decrease by some 31.5%. Obviously if rates went beyond 10% the purchasing power would decrease further. It'll be a good time to have cash as investment properties may return to being profitable.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I do like Peter Schiff, and think that he's been a voice of reason in recent years, but sometimes I think his forecasts are overly gloomy... but hey that sells books and EuroPacific products.

My major problem is that he states up until 2000, housing prices closely mirrored the CPI. Since then they've gone crazy far exceeding the CPI.

Later he'll state that since the 90's, the CPI has been useless because of the way that the gov't toys with the numbers, and that inflationary rates have been much higher than stated. If that's the case, than housing prices maybe haven't risen quite as drastically out of whack, and aren't likely to fall back to below pre-2000 levels, in my opinion.

To me the biggest question is how far will interest rates rise. If fixed interest rates were to raise from 6% to 10%, the purchasing power of a buyer would decrease by some 31.5%. Obviously if rates went beyond 10% the purchasing power would decrease further. It'll be a good time to have cash as investment properties may return to being profitable.
Interesting. Schiff could've sold off the crap securities or internet stocks when they were big and made even more money short term than he did by recommending commodities and gold about 5-10 years ago.

I believe his Crash Proof book sales are a tiny tiny fraction of his net worth, but I could be mistaken.

Also, he's a capitalist in the truest sense of the word. I don't blame him one bit on spreading the word on the faltering US economy in order to promote his company. If he were to come onto the scene in the past 2 years, I would be more worried, but the fact that he's practically hated in the polyannish CNBC crowd is way more than enough to dump my money into his brokerage.
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:59 PM
 
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I don't think he's a snake-oil salesman by any means. I just disagree with how far our economy will fall. There is no question in my mind that the "correction" will be major, but I'm not ready to build a fall-out shelter yet either.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I don't think he's a snake-oil salesman by any means. I just disagree with how far our economy will fall. There is no question in my mind that the "correction" will be major, but I'm not ready to build a fall-out shelter yet either.
He doesn't recommend a fall-out shelter either, nor does he recommend burying gold in the backyard as your investment strategy. Far from it.

He believes we'll actually do the right thing and the dollar will only lose about 50-80% of its value in the best case before finding support about 5 years from now.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:15 PM
 
Location: America
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He doesn't recommend a fall-out shelter either, nor does he recommend burying gold in the backyard as your investment strategy. Far from it.

He believes we'll actually do the right thing and the dollar will only lose about 50-80% of its value in the best case before finding support about 5 years from now.
The problem is, people do not have any or very little understanding of how economics works. So when people speak about what is going to happen they interpret that as end of the world. They do not realize what any of this really means.
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Here's another blast from the past.....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/opihi1/gaspriceseb1.jpg (broken link)
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