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Old 11-08-2008, 09:31 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Productivity.

Productivity is the key parameter linking the elements in this fundamental equation:

production - consumption = saving + investment

The rest is drivel.
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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Drill!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EV-1

forget building more nukes, wind power, solar, or drilling for more oil. We need to completely change the vehicles we transport ourselves in (65% of oil use is for transportation needs). It time to rid ourselves the the internal combustion engine. Period.
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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American-made.
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:51 AM
 
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No fractional reserves.
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Old 11-08-2008, 09:57 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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EV-1

forget building more nukes, wind power, solar, or drilling for more oil. We need to completely change the vehicles we transport ourselves in (65% of oil use is for transportation needs). It time to rid ourselves the the internal combustion engine. Period.
I agree in principle.

In practice, please enlighten the technologically challenged, what is EV-1?

What alternative has a better energy-in/energy-out ratio than the internal combustion engine and fossil fuels?
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Clayton
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You do realize that at some point you run out of cheap, easy oil and at the same time have to fight the laws of supply and demand as SE Asia moves out of the 3rd world. 'Drill here, drill now' is insufficient to fight forces that strong. 'Move on' is better for our long-term security and sustainability.
Cheap and easy is a now solution that we desperately need. The gas guzzlers on our highways were put there with tax policies that allowed the rapid depreciation of vehicles that weighed over 6000 lbs. Guess what? if it weighs that much then it will guzzle fuel. Change the tax policy to favor small american made cars, deregulate the energy business and put policies in place to favor conversion to natural gas for motor fuels. Issue permits to build nuclear facilities for electricity and stop cowering in the face of the environmentalist wackos that have caused much of the difficulty and the average american will prosper. We cannot afford 35 ppercent of the average family budgett for energy just to satisfy some tree hugger. Drilling is part of the answer but not all
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:12 AM
 
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JOBS

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American-made.
You get the prize.

Drilling for oil benefits a small segment of our economy. I think the OP based his opinion on the assumption that oil is a necessity that people must buy. True but only to a point. How many people are going to buy gas if they don't have jobs and the money that comes with having a job?

Productivity. That has nice sound to it, but you have to be employed first.

No fractional reserves. That sounds nice too. OK, your wish is granted. Fractional reserves are gone. Now what?

Jobs are the lifeblood of any healthy country.

Last edited by davidt1; 11-08-2008 at 10:23 AM.. Reason: True but only to a point
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:13 AM
 
Location: southern california
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save.
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:49 AM
 
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You do realize that at some point you run out of cheap, easy oil and at the same time have to fight the laws of supply and demand as SE Asia moves out of the 3rd world. 'Drill here, drill now' is insufficient to fight forces that strong. 'Move on' is better for our long-term security and sustainability.
Since the question was about the economy, my answer was for now. Oil will anyway be a huge part of our life, like it or not.
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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JOBS



You get the prize.

Drilling for oil benefits a small segment of our economy. I think the OP based his opinion on the assumption that oil is a necessity that people must buy. True but only to a point. How many people are going to buy gas if they don't have jobs and the money that comes with having a job?

Productivity. That has nice sound to it, but you have to be employed first.

No fractional reserves. That sounds nice too. OK, your wish is granted. Fractional reserves are gone. Now what?

Jobs are the lifeblood of any healthy country.
Your saying oil and talking fuel. EVERYTHING made takes oil!!!
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