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View Poll Results: Will we have to cut the wars short to pay for bailouts?
End Afghanistan 0 0%
End Iraq 10 31.25%
End Both 12 37.50%
No, we will continue with both wars 10 31.25%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-24-2008, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Hope, AR
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This is not a political thread--just related to the financial element of financing the war(s).
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Wars are the ultimate indulgence for the politically insecure and hopelessly greedy. We need to stop the wars, completely revise military spending and put some emptionally secure people in charge. We have done the latter and now it is time to do the first two.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Funny how peole think the status quo will just continue onward, yet the Soviet Empire stopped DEAD in its tracks with its military might.

The same will happen here. I would bet a great deal on it.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Hope, AR
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I think they will continue with both wars for a couple of years, then when it reaches a crisis point and it's obvious they can't continue, declare victory and leave abruptly.
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Read "Sorrows of Empire" by Chalmers Johnson.

In the long term military Empires never pay the full cost of their maintenance. Only at the beginning do they provide a profit for the Imperial power. Eventually they bankrupt the economy.
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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They will continue the wars till the rest of the world pulls the plug on their credit. I am wondering when China will finally say "enough is enough" and stop buying US debt. Then they could enjoy easier access to middle east oil.
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:52 AM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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War is a "make work" program for the military. They're not protecting us; they're bankrupting us. Let's cut the "support the troops" BS. It's really about "support the rich". More bread; less guns.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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They will continue the wars till the rest of the world pulls the plug on their credit. I am wondering when China will finally say "enough is enough" and stop buying US debt. Then they could enjoy easier access to middle east oil.
china signed a deal with iraq to develop the ahdab oil fields there, so they are on course for their own preservation. i still can't figure out the reason we went to war with iraq if it wasn't for the oil. (which we did not get). i don't believe for a minute that it was to "liberate" the people of iraq.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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china signed a deal with iraq to develop the ahdab oil fields there, so they are on course for their own preservation. i still can't figure out the reason we went to war with iraq if it wasn't for the oil. (which we did not get). i don't believe for a minute that it was to "liberate" the people of iraq.
I was guessing places like Iraq/Afghanistan/Iran are good places to set up bases for the final confrontation in Central Asia for the remaining oil resources. China/Russia are allies in a sort of way to bother us and keep us from reaching these regions.
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:00 AM
 
Location: In My Own Little World. . .
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They will continue the wars till the rest of the world pulls the plug on their credit. I am wondering when China will finally say "enough is enough" and stop buying US debt. Then they could enjoy easier access to middle east oil.
And when China says "enough", guess who gets to pay the bill??? hint: taxpayers - higher taxes.
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