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I think the protected age group starts at 45 not 40.
I have been involved in large reduction-in-force programs at several corporations and have never seen any focus on age or pay... it has always been on capabilities. When reducing staff the most important factor is your ability to continue bussiness operations. This may be different in an operation where there is a large over surplus of skilled workers but that is not all that common in today's business environment.
The important things in every job is good relations with the overall staff and getting the job done while you make the boss look good.
Depending on the job, management would never hire someone without experience, because it would take forever to train them and bring them up to speed. They want someone who can perform NOW.
Snot-nosed? Did you get schooled by a recent graduate? Kids ARE getting smarter these days, so you better keep up or get burnt.
Do we have a little CHIP on our shoulder? I was making an observation. And no it isn't just crap jobs that hire freshly graduated students. I work for an aerospace company and I've seen it. So please stick your head back up your arse now.
IBM does this...they like the recent grads so they can pay them cheap and mold them....while the knowledge walks out the door.....lets see how far they get.
It really depends on the job. How many CEOs, CFOs, CIO, etc are under 40? Do yourself a favor and make lifelong learning an education and a top priority in your company.
I think it was several years ago when K-Mart fired employes over 40 and replaced them with cheaper young people.... Does anyone here know how that lawsuit came out. I do remember they were sued for it.
I guess it didn't matter..Circuit City did the same thing and see where they are today.
I think one factor is the population size of different ages. 15-29 year olds and 45-54 year olds make up the biggest shares of the population right now, Baby Boomers and Gen Y. As of 2009, the 15-19 year olds are the peak 4 years of generation Y, and currently the largest 4-year population block in the US. That is a big, moving target for advertisers for years to come.
Population Pyramids for United States (http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbpyry.pl?cty=US&maxp=14472339&maxa=85&ymax=300&y r=2009&.submit=Submit+Query - broken link)
Ohhhh! Thank you for posting this! I keep wondering where to target a business and now you've pointed out a bubble in 15 to 19 year olds. That's a huge help!
Do we have a little CHIP on our shoulder? I was making an observation. And no it isn't just crap jobs that hire freshly graduated students. I work for an aerospace company and I've seen it. So please stick your head back up your arse now.
Can't take the heat grandpa? If you hadn't qualified recent college grads as snot-nosed maybe the above poster wouldn't have jumped your chili. What's your point anyways, you were an untrained chimp once too. Standard boomer remark I tell ya.
A baby boomer aerospace worker are you kidding me? You guys are the worst kind. Why do you think NASA is on shambles? Because your demographic didn't want to give up the helm post-Apollo. I don't know where this "we're God's gift to the industry, they're untrained chimps" attitude comes from, you guys were the ones who got the full value of a college education post GI Bill, nowadays these 'untrained chimps' are getting a high school diploma's marketability for the same effort and education, and a higher debt load. If anything you're the one with the chip on the shoulder because these kids are working twice as hard to undercut you and you can't hack it anymore. Hate the game, not the player. Management will always look for ways to cut cost and undercut the proletariat, for you to blame the young and hungry, particularly in light of the comparative advantages you had to become the trained chimp you currently are, is disingenuous beyond belief. You're not special, you're replaceable, even at your level of age and experience. What do you want these 'kids' to do, forego employment and take their aerospace education to Applebees so that the boomers can continue hoggin up the line 'til their hearts content? LOL We gotta pay bills too, the sooner you guys get out of the way the sooner this conga line will pick back up. I don't want to have to work till 70 just because y'all overspent as a generation and are delaying the inevitable. Untrained chimps, what a gem ROTFL
40 became old when people figured out the boss is jerking them around.
new cheap and stupid is good.
time for a labor movement yet? no? oaky doaky.
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Kids ARE getting smarter these days, so you better keep up or get burnt.
