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Old 03-31-2009, 05:30 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Look at your average home price, $400k or something? Do you realize the income you need to afford that kind of house?

Here (NC) you can buy single family homes for $150k and that gets you 15 minutes from the capital and around 1500 sq ft in a decent neighborhood. $100k-$120k gets you a 1500 sq ft. home on the outskirts/country (30 minute commute). The wages needed to support living in our area of the country are SUBSTANTIALLY less than CA.
Don't tell them these things.... they'll be headed to your state next, then it will become a crazed liberal state of utopia.
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Old 03-31-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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If you don't like this budget, you probably will not like the next 6 to 10 either. What the State is looking at is increasing taxes and fees every year for the foreseeable future. This current budget involved borrowing 14 billion which along with interest payments that has now been added to your tax bills. The same scenario is going to happen next year and the year after that, until the people finally wise up and clean house in Sacramento. I am afraid it will take a lot more pain before that happens. Most people cannot even tell you who their State Assemblyman is, much less how he has been voting.
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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I used to believe that, but I don't now after living abroad. Let's take Northern Europe case in point. Nordic countries that have taxes that make California taxes seem like nothing for decades now. Yet, many of these Nordic nations seem to be doing very well indeed, much better off than the average Americans and hardly a total wasteland.
Hi ChunkyMonkey,

Small homogeneous cultures with little corruption, no military spending and North Sea oil does tend to help.
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Old 04-01-2009, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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If you don't like this budget, you probably will not like the next 6 to 10 either. What the State is looking at is increasing taxes and fees every year for the foreseeable future. This current budget involved borrowing 14 billion which along with interest payments that has now been added to your tax bills. The same scenario is going to happen next year and the year after that, until the people finally wise up and clean house in Sacramento. I am afraid it will take a lot more pain before that happens. Most people cannot even tell you who their State Assemblyman is, much less how he has been voting.
Ca is so damn corupt its unbelievable.The voters do need to clean house & get rid of the dead beat politicians.Its obvious they dont listen to the taxpayers but those rat bastards sure are good at stealing our money.This really is one pathetic & totally despised legislature...WOW!!!!
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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Don't forget the state is not car friendly to begin with...

I can name at least a dozen antique auto restorers/collectors that have moved to Oregon or Nevada...

License Fees too high and not being able to buy necessary supplies tops the list plus very high sales taxes...
I'd have to disagree with this statement. If CA weren't car friendly, it wouldn't have the most expansive freeway system in the US nor would it have been designed the way it was. Their mass-transit is lacking dearly. Really, they don't expand transit much past cars. So, what do you have? A state full of car-happy citizens you can now tax to death. Go ahead, try to use mass transit in LA, OC, San Bern, or Riverside. Just try to center your life around it. It's almost impossible (and I take my hat off to anyone who can). So, knowing this, the citizens will take it up the ass in taxes, drive some more, and many (irrational) won't move away because "they live in 'Kely-forn-ia'." Only a few places in NorCal are truly mass-transit/walking friendly, but they have even more taxes for you anyhow, and the housing is more expensive, so you wouldn't be saving money.

Oh, what has become of that state. Becoming the beacon of the US in the 50s and 60s, and now plummeting.
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:07 PM
 
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Don't tell them these things.... they'll be headed to your state next, then it will become a crazed liberal state of utopia.
It's true. It's already happened here in Atlanta. It's just now starting in NC.
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