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Old 05-26-2009, 11:08 AM
 
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It wouldn't be unthinkable if the action was across the board and affected all not for profits...

Add into the mix the Red Cross, Salvation Army, Legal Aid Religious Relief Organizations...

The amount of Tax Increase corresponds to a proportional Decrease in the activity taxed... at least that what my Econ Professor said so many years ago
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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The amount of Tax Increase corresponds to a proportional Decrease in the activity taxed... at least that what my Econ Professor said so many years ago
Normally that would be the case, but if a religion requires a certain percentage of your income in tithing, their revenue shouldn't decrease.
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Every new law or policy change is another step to the decline of the USA. My biggest arguement is that all changes made in the last few decades have been for the worse. I think that most taxes are unnecessary and unconstitutional. Also it would be all but impossible to determine the income of churches as their members could donate in ways not able to be traced.
No federal taxes are unconstitutional in as so much they are uniform.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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I think we need a flat tax across the board starting at the break for poverty level and going to infinity. No deductions, no tax shelters, just a flat percentage.

I also think religions and churches should be taxed just as any other business.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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No the separation of religion and the governamnt not interferring in it was a founding father constitutional idea. It was because in amny european countries the religion wqas sate approved and no other was allowed. many other were discriminated against. Same thing hppened in the east block and geramny in WWII.Non-profits is a law that actaully could be changed. Taxing religion would require a constitutional amendment its so set in stone by the constitution. Separation of church and state was more to protect religious freedom because of state religions.
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Old 06-06-2009, 05:24 AM
 
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i used to think that churches should not be taxed but since so many of them are being run as businesses now, they should have the same tax rate as businesses. i find it incredibly annoying in my county that the catholic church encourages illegal immigration and helps find GOVERNMENT revenue sources for those illegal immigrants. in the end, it is not about charity but about revenue for the catholic church, otherwise they would use their own church tithings to help the illegal immigrants instead of directing them to government aid. as far as the other organizations go, i think the red cross should be taxed. in florida, during the hurricanes, they came by with camera crews, interviewed people, raised money, and left. they did very little financially but certainly collected a lot of money on the backs of the hurricane victims. look at their revenue flow and their CEO salaries. are they truly non-profit? there is definitely abuse of the church and non-profit exemption status.
one site on red cross corruption (not blaming the volunteers at all!):
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chri...ew_orleans.htm
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Old 06-06-2009, 05:44 AM
 
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Churches that function as de facto political organizations should be taxed.
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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i used to think that churches should not be taxed but since so many of them are being run as businesses now, they should have the same tax rate as businesses. i find it incredibly annoying in my county that the catholic church encourages illegal immigration and helps find GOVERNMENT revenue sources for those illegal immigrants. in the end, it is not about charity but about revenue for the catholic church, otherwise they would use their own church tithings to help the illegal immigrants instead of directing them to government aid. as far as the other organizations go, i think the red cross should be taxed. in florida, during the hurricanes, they came by with camera crews, interviewed people, raised money, and left. they did very little financially but certainly collected a lot of money on the backs of the hurricane victims. look at their revenue flow and their CEO salaries. are they truly non-profit? there is definitely abuse of the church and non-profit exemption status.
one site on red cross corruption (not blaming the volunteers at all!):
Red Cross CEO Pulled Down $651,957 Salary - Bush Strafes New Orleans - Share The Wealth
If they are involved in politics they are not a true religion. Agreed they should be treated as a non-profit business if they use money to influence politics or pay salaries to anyone in their organization. However, taxing true charities or religions is just plain wrong. If they abuse their status, investigate and change their status to reflect their true nature. Then you can tax them like their peers.
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