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Old 10-10-2008, 05:34 PM
 
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Usually when they start "talking" about these things it ends up happening.

General Motors, Ford and Chrysler 'could go bankrupt' warns Standard & Poor's | Mail Online
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:37 PM
 
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Usually when they start "talking" about these things it ends up happening.

General Motors, Ford and Chrysler 'could go bankrupt' warns Standard & Poor's | Mail Online
Gee, too bad.

Does this mean we could FINALLY have grid powered electric cars and roads?



There is a LOT to love in this depression.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Broward County
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GM has already come out today and said that bankruptcey is not an option. They also got a a huge loan from the fed's this past week. They are not going bankrupt. Ford and Chrysler on the other hand, I am not too sure about
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles Area
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Ford should do what they did back in the 20's after the model T was being out sold by GM's offerings. Close the factories, retool them and make cars people want.

I don't blame the America auto makers profiting from SUVs etc they brought in a lot of money. But gas didn't go up in a few months, they had years to start planning for future markets. They seemed to have no plan B, why not do the R&D for cars that would sell better with high gas prices as a contingency plan? If the research was done it would only take them about a year to get the cars out to the market.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:52 PM
 
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Gee, too bad.

Does this mean we could FINALLY have grid powered electric cars and roads?



There is a LOT to love in this depression.
How many panels would I need to power a car? Lol. Maybe I'll get another wind generator for an electric car.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:26 PM
 
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GM has already come out today and said that bankruptcey is not an option. They also got a a huge loan from the fed's this past week. They are not going bankrupt. Ford and Chrysler on the other hand, I am not too sure about
GM can say whatever they want. Bankruptcy is seldom the "choice" of the firm. Sometime take a look at the balance sheet of this firm. It's already bankrupt by any reasonable measure, and no amount of additional borrowing by a company with such enormous negative cash flow will help. Borrowing/piling on additional debt to a company that already has over $200 billion in liabilities is ludicrous.

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Old 10-10-2008, 06:32 PM
 
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How many panels would I need to power a car? Lol. Maybe I'll get another wind generator for an electric car.
Lots and lots bigger than your household panels --

did some of this >>>

Ausra.com

this Spring.

MUCH (much, much) bigger power scale (and much cheaper) than your TN homestead units.

The whole grid power roadway advantage is no oil, and no batteries.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles Area
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GM can say whatever they want. Bankruptcy is seldom the "choice" of the firm.
Haha, seriously. Like they are going to say "We are bankrupt guys send our stock to zero".
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Orange, California
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I do think we have heard the death knell of the Big Three american auto makers. The fed govt has done a lot to prop them up over the years, but it now has bigger fish to fry with the entire financial/banking industry teetering on ruin. Life will go on if the U.S. stops manufacturing automobiles on a large scale (except for maybe in Detroit). And the Big Three going under could also lead to good ole fashioned american innovation where a new company could pop up to start making quality hybrids.
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:10 PM
 
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I would bet that they leave detroit if they just scale down. They are how paying off employeees to retire.
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