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Old 07-03-2009, 10:43 PM
 
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There is no good reason to believe this is true. Raising taxes, especially just on the rather high brackets has not been correlated with a decline in economic activity in the past.

The cap and trade system would at worst act as a small tax on people. Europe already has a working example, and Germany is able to have a robust export economy while still having a cap and trade system. The arguments that this would kill manufacturing, etc are baseless. Cap and trade was also used in the acid rain program.

This is a funny issue where the environmentalists and right wing-nuts are on the same side.
What's the "small" tax going to be......got a number for us ? Or are you just making things up ?
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:14 AM
 
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Brave Stranger...You dont understand...Obama knows exactly what he's doing...purposely destroying the private sector...so that he can model the US economy under a European socialistic model...
whether intentional or not, i do believe that there are efforts underway to destroy the private sector.

CHARLESTON -- With the state's unemployment numbers approaching decade-long highs, state lawmakers are considering raising taxes on employers to prevent the state's unemployment compensation fund from going bust if the national economy continues its decline.

government will not take responsibility for getting their own financial house in order and are trying to pass the buck to an already overwhelmed private sector. the stupidity of trying to damage the same sector that you receive your own funding from never ceases to amaze me. THIS WILL NOT HAVE A HAPPY ENDING. YOU CANNOT INCREASE YOUR SPENDING WHILE CUTTING YOUR PAY, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING!
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:31 PM
 
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Brave Stranger...You dont understand...Obama knows exactly what he's doing...purposely destroying the private sector...so that he can model the US economy under a European socialistic model...


How so? Its just more of the same. The corporate owned government is doing everything in its power to destroy the middle class. This has been happening for quite some time though.

Lol, lets rip on the French and make jokes about freedom fries.I know you may have a heart attack but I would prefer to have an European socialistic model instead of the race to the bottom to become a third world nation thats going on right now.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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How so? Its just more of the same. The corporate owned government is doing everything in its power to destroy the middle class. This has been happening for quite some time though.
What incentive does the government have to destroy the middle-class?
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:01 PM
 
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What incentive does the government have to destroy the middle-class?
Campaign contributions...
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Campaign contributions...
How does destroying the middle-class increase campaign contributions?
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:12 PM
 
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How does destroying the middle-class increase campaign contributions?
If you can't answer that, you're not as bright as I thought you were.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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If you can't answer that, you're not as bright as I thought you were.
I'm not concerned with what you think of me, stick to the issues.

I've heard a number of insipid responses to the question I asked, I just don't know which one you believe. Hence the question.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:17 PM
 
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Christine Romans: Graduated from Iowa State University. While attending ISU, she majored in French and Journalism and spent extensive time in France as an exchange student.

Ummm...where's the business/econ experience? 'Nuff said.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Ummm...where's the business/econ experience? 'Nuff said.
But she traveled in France!

Its amazing how unqualified most journalist are in just about everything...
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