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Old 11-04-2009, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I thought this is interesting, no idea to what degree its actually true though. Go Mexico.

U.S. dumps China for Mexico - Nov. 3, 2009
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:20 AM
 
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I thought this is interesting, no idea to what degree its actually true though. Go Mexico.

U.S. dumps China for Mexico - Nov. 3, 2009
We will be seeing a lot more of this in the future and hopefully more manufacturing coming to the USA as transportation costs increase.

The USA really missed a great opportunity in the 90's. Soon after NAFTA was signed China joined the WTO and globalization became a race to the bottom. Just think if even half the investment in China went to Mexico how much better off both Mexico and the USA would be. We would be next to the world's factory floor. Our money would be going to a friendly government that didn't block our products and steal our technology. The US wouldn't have millions of illegals. Their would be less Mexicans forced into the drug cartels. Unlike China Mexico's military would never challenge the USA since we are next door to them we could stop them quickly before their military got too strong. The list just goes on and on.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:43 AM
 
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I thought this is interesting, no idea to what degree its actually true though. Go Mexico.
Hopefully China will dump US treasuries soon and stop buying our debt. Then the ***** can really hit the fan.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:19 AM
 
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Hopefully China will dump US treasuries soon and stop buying our debt. Then the ***** can really hit the fan.
China can't stop buying US debt until it stops manipulating its currency.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:27 AM
 
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People want to buy cheap goods, the more they can buy the better.

With energy costs increasing the wage savings are going away.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:17 PM
 
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I like to buy things for less money!

I doubt energy costs will increase too much in the long run, the massive amounts of money on the table will drive innovation. They could even decline over time.

Regardless, I'd much rather get stuff made in Mexico vs China. Much quicker transportation, easier to visit factories, easier to communicate with people (very similar cultures, etc) and so on.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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Regardless, I'd much rather get stuff made in Mexico vs China. Much quicker transportation, easier to visit factories, easier to communicate with people (very similar cultures, etc) and so on.
You forgot the best part. More jobs in Mexico = fewer illegal immigrants in the US.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:56 AM
 
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You forgot the best part. More jobs in Mexico = fewer illegal immigrants in the US.
The illegal immigrants from Mexico don't bother me, I grew up with them in Los Angeles and over all think they contribute more to American society than take away.

I'm more bothered with the "let's ignore reality" immigration laws that don't allow them to come here legally.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:48 AM
 
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Default America is flooded with legal immigrants from Mexico also

I do not understand it when immigration rights supporters say there is no opportunity to come here from Latin America. Most legal immigrants to America is from Latin America. We let in millions of legal immigrants from South of the Border.

Why can't we open America up to a wider mix of legal immigrants?

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The illegal immigrants from Mexico don't bother me, I grew up with them in Los Angeles and over all think they contribute more to American society than take away.

I'm more bothered with the "let's ignore reality" immigration laws that don't allow them to come here legally.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:09 AM
 
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I do not understand it when immigration rights supporters say there is no opportunity to come here from Latin America. Most legal immigrants to America is from Latin America. We let in millions of legal immigrants from South of the Border.
That is probably because you have no idea what is involved in coming here legally. The current state of immigration is just silly, there is a huge need for certain sort of immigrate workers (say in farming) yet its near impossible for these people to get legal residency. Its the "ignore reality" immigration laws, few politicians are willing to be owe up because they will be seen as "illegal supporters". So, we have a ridiculous situation where the country needs millions of these laborers yet they can't come here legally. A system that acknowledges reality and keeps track of these people is far better than the current system. Assuming you also implement stricter border control, such a system could also limit (at least roughly) the number of people that gain entry to match what is required by industry.

The vast majority of people getting legal residency are educated and have money. Needless to say, these people are not going to be working on farms.

Anyhow, I've known a number of people here illegally. Its not like they never tried to gain legal residency, rather the system made it impossible.
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