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Old 03-05-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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The Plight of American Manufacturing | The American Prospect

In this article the author states the reasons why we will not return to the economy of the past. In effect we have destroyed the engine of our economy.
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Plight of American Manufacturing | The American Prospect

In this article the author states the reasons why we will not return to the economy of the past. In effect we have destroyed the engine of our economy.
You can add to this is what we also have is a "crisis in culture". Everyone with their hand out.
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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You can add to this is what we also have is a "crisis in culture". Everyone with their hand out.

People have their hand out in many cases because they have been restricted from making a living.
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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You can add to this is what we also have is a "crisis in culture". Everyone with their hand out.
*yawn*. Yeah we get it. Everybody who's poor or stuck treading water is so because they're morally bankrupt or hasn't asked God the right questions, we've heard this before Joel Osteen.

You finger pointers always insist on asserting the chicken MUST CERTAINLYcame before egg. Society is never flawed. Joe just got lazy and THEN society eroded. Gimme a break....

Individualism is great until it fails you....then you're just another morally bankrupt 'handout' case. Beware what you wish for...
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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*yawn*. Yeah we get it. Everybody who's poor or stuck treading water is so because they're morally bankrupt or hasn't asked God the right questions, we've heard this before Joel Osteen.

You finger pointers always insist on asserting the chicken MUST CERTAINLYcame before egg. Society is never flawed. Joe just got lazy and THEN society eroded. Gimme a break....

Individualism is great until it fails you....then you're just another morally bankrupt 'handout' case. Beware what you wish for...

Man, I cannot keep up with giving you rep points. Lol.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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*yawn*. Yeah we get it. Everybody who's poor or stuck treading water is so because they're morally bankrupt or hasn't asked God the right questions, we've heard this before Joel Osteen.

You finger pointers always insist on asserting the chicken MUST CERTAINLYcame before egg. Society is never flawed. Joe just got lazy and THEN society eroded. Gimme a break....

Individualism is great until it fails you....then you're just another morally bankrupt 'handout' case. Beware what you wish for...
A lot of us pulled it together in the 70's again in the 80's and the 90's and the market crash in the early 2000's. Worked it out, did not go into debt beyond our means. Maybe others should try it. Makes you feel good about yourself and gives you self worth.
But then again too many take the easy "hand out" course. Anyone over 50 will get it.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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A lot of us pulled it together in the 70's again in the 80's and the 90's and the market crash in the early 2000's. Worked it out, did not go into debt beyond our means. Maybe others should try it. Makes you feel good about yourself and gives you self worth.
But then again too many take the easy "hand out" course. Anyone over 50 will get it.

Good question for you....what if eating caused you to go in to debt?
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Good question for you....what if eating caused you to go in to debt?
It wouldn't because I plan for the worst and hope for the best. Try saving money. Its called personal responsibility.
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Old 03-05-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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It wouldn't because I plan for the worst and hope for the best. Try saving money. Its called personal responsibility.

Do you understand the concept of living wage? Basically it is the wage needed to achieve a minimum standard of living in a particuliar area. Do you even have a comprehension of how many people are below this figure? Save money....they arent even making enough money to survive spending over 100% of their income.

Or, what about the people who are just treading water, who save every dime, and then they get laid off, and figure out, their life time savings was enough to carry them maybe 6 months.....so, what exactly do they do after they cant find a job paying living wage after that point?

You cant possibly be naive enough to believe that everybody is making enough to put away a comfy nest egg.
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Old 03-05-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Try what a lot of people have done. If it requires it find two minimum wage jobs. Don't buy cars or houses you cannot afford. Save what you can for a rainy day. It can be done, you just have to want it.
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