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Old 04-17-2010, 04:33 AM
 
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you are clearly more optimistic about that than i am about our going in the right direction now. what i see is a government trying to gain force in a very unpleasant fashion. i saw a new bill sponsored where private sector could not have unpaid interns, but the government is exempt from the rules! there is so much blatant overreaching trying to pull the private sector down. of course, the government wants more taxes from everyone because it strengthens the government and hurts the private sector.

that is insane! we are so going in the wrong direction now with bigger government, and i just hope that americans realize it and put the brakes on before we do lose our freedoms.
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:02 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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you are clearly more optimistic about that than i am about our going in the right direction now. what i see is a government trying to gain force in a very unpleasant fashion. i saw a new bill sponsored where private sector could not have unpaid interns, but the government is exempt from the rules! there is so much blatant overreaching trying to pull the private sector down. of course, the government wants more taxes from everyone because it strengthens the government and hurts the private sector.

that is insane! we are so going in the wrong direction now with bigger government, and i just hope that americans realize it and put the brakes on before we do lose our freedoms.
We are losing our "freedoms" to the Coroprate Giants, not much doubt where all the money went...our tax dollars at work supporting Goldman Sachs and the other " Banks"...that never were banks in the firstplace.
We need Government to put the brakes on Corporate greed. It all started with Regan and Deregulation...went on from there. Our future will see a return to a more regulated society. One that will work for a while maybe , until the Cortorates get ahold of the regulations and direct the rules in their favor. It happened before , it will happen again. Nothing really new , just a redistribution of wealth to the people....or atlest it will look that way...for a while.
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Alaska & Florida
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Last time I checked we still live in a free country where individual choices are respected, who the hell is the government to force me to buy health coverage or pay fines? If I choose not to buy health coverage then it is MY wish.

Thankfully the constitutionality of this is being challenged:

FOXNews.com - Health Care Reform Fight Shifts From Congress to the Courts

If we don't challenge this then what is next? Government forcing everyone to submit to drug tests every 6 months? Or maybe they will fine people for consuming Hamburgers because they are unhealthy...
Your face is an OUTRAGE! lol
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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We are losing our "freedoms" to the Coroprate Giants, not much doubt where all the money went...our tax dollars at work supporting Goldman Sachs and the other " Banks"...that never were banks in the firstplace.
We need Government to put the brakes on Corporate greed. It all started with Regan and Deregulation...went on from there. Our future will see a return to a more regulated society. One that will work for a while maybe , until the Cortorates get ahold of the regulations and direct the rules in their favor. It happened before , it will happen again. Nothing really new , just a redistribution of wealth to the people....or atlest it will look that way...for a while.
who regulates the corporations again? all government had to do was ENFORCE THE LAW, but the SEC has been asleep at the switch for a long time and isn't waking up anytime soon.

just as the government refuses to enforce the laws regarding illegal immigration and protect our workers. we had rules in place that stopped the kind of crap that is going on and CONGRESS REPEALED IT.

we certainly need the volcker rule.

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Old 05-03-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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who regulates the corporations again? all government had to do was ENFORCE THE LAW, but the SEC has been asleep at the switch for a long time and isn't waking up anytime soon.

just as the government refuses to enforce the laws regarding illegal immigration and protect our workers. we had rules in place that stopped the kind of crap that is going on and CONGRESS REPEALED IT.

we certainly need to bring back glass steagall, no doubt about it.
Since Regan , the mood in the Country has been De-Regulation. That's where it all started. Its understandable that we had been living with regulation for so long , that Big Business had a strangle hold on entry, on the small business man trying to get into the markets. de-regulation changes that , but it also let Big Business run wild with the economy, without oversight , without the normal checks and balances needed for a level playing field.
Politics being what they are, and politicians beholding to Corporate Lobbyist has created a worst case outcome....now its time to reverse the trend, but this time , without the lobby folks and the Big bankers steeling our money. Yes , Glass-Steagall needs to be returned, but also better Government, one that has oversite that actually works.
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Old 05-07-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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You do realize I want nothing to do with the Gubmint involved in my healthcare? Id rather pay out of pocket for the office visit and be done with it. Better care, faster.
A long time? LMAO! 6 years maybe...The only thing that makes me smile about this is that I wasnt one of the stupid sheep (College kids)in my generation that believed Obama's crap.

Morons couldnt even handle Katrina...or any other "subsidized" program they've started.

If the "results" from the government recommendations for breast exams is an example of Uncle Sam's "Coverage" then they can bite me.

Im better off alone...as to the IRS, catch me if you can. Where there's a will, there's a way, and Im one stubborn, willful biotch.

I agree with this poster. The governmet has no business dealing with health care. This "new" insurance thing is a gigantic waste. The government has no right or responsibility to ensure its citizens have reliable and reasonably affordable health care. Only rich people should get care. Poor people, please die. ANd die fast, because I really don't like when yoo tap the windows outside the hospital with your sad little faces, and your sad little children dieing of some horrible disease you can't afford to care for.

And ..AND!!! No more government student loans to med students. No more entitlement for these students!!! I don't want the government involved in my health care, and that includes some kind of socialistic, money grubbing free for all by this new generation of med students at the government trough.

Look, I will pay for my own doctor's schooling out of my own pocket. All of those government subsidies that keep hospitals running, even when that is all that keeps them going, also need to end. I am willing to pay out of my own pocket to drive hundreds of miles on roads and highways that I have also paid for out of my own pocket, perhaps at night, under street lamps, which I have paid for out of my own pocket. With policmen watching over the night. Policemen I have paid for, out of my own pocket. To the last hospital left in the USA. Which is paid for out of my own pocket.

Just like the above poster.

Man my pockets are like, awesome. 'Cuz that's a lot of money. Out of one pocket.
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Old 05-07-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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I agree with this poster. The governmet has no business dealing with health care. This "new" insurance thing is a gigantic waste. The government has no right or responsibility to ensure its citizens have reliable and reasonably affordable health care. Only rich people should get care. Poor people, please die. ANd die fast, because I really don't like when yoo tap the windows outside the hospital with your sad little faces, and your sad little children dieing of some horrible disease you can't afford to care for.

And ..AND!!! No more government student loans to med students. No more entitlement for these students!!! I don't want the government involved in my health care, and that includes some kind of socialistic, money grubbing free for all by this new generation of med students at the government trough.

Look, I will pay for my own doctor's schooling out of my own pocket. All of those government subsidies that keep hospitals running, even when that is all that keeps them going, also need to end. I am willing to pay out of my own pocket to drive hundreds of miles on roads and highways that I have also paid for out of my own pocket, perhaps at night, under street lamps, which I have paid for out of my own pocket. With policmen watching over the night. Policemen I have paid for, out of my own pocket. To the last hospital left in the USA. Which is paid for out of my own pocket.

Just like the above poster.

Man my pockets are like, awesome. 'Cuz that's a lot of money. Out of one pocket.
Isn't the term "Government Student Loans" a little misleading? Does the government really loan the money? And does this med student you are referring to, does he/she not have to repay that loan? And with interest?
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