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Old 10-05-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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A friend of mine just told me (he just recently retired with pension) that his company told him to apply for unemployment benefits. He told them he didn't need it, but they started sending him out unemployment checks. Basically when he started asking questions they got aggravated and just told him to take the money.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Where the money come from is less important than the fact that these people are still paying the mortgage and buying gasoline and groceries. If the unemployment ends, or these people become completely underemployed, and stop paying the bills or buying groceries etc, the market clearing prices would drop through the floor. Extended unemployment is an attempt to maintain consumer prices in the face of a post speculative deflation. Long term unemployment payments are designed to help the big money boys and the fact that it helps people buy groceries is a side effect.
Spot on. The conservatives on these forums seem to be under the false impression that the "Powers that Be" (NO, not the President and politicians) give out welfare and unemployment benefits out of the goodness of their hearts or because they're sappy hearted liberals.

The real reason is they're not ready for the final phase, YET. And they're not ready to call in the National Guard and U.N. troops to secure civil order. Nor do they want to have to drive around in armoured convoys and hire bigger private security forces at the moment.

No, they (the top 1/2 of 1%) don't give a flying ***** about anyone not in one of their families or clubs. As a matter of fact the ultimate plan is to do away with around 95% of the world's population with them and about 500,000,000 of their personal feudal slaves left. They no longer want or need 6 billion serfs. They would be perfectly happy with half a billion.

Whether they succeed or not remains to be seen but they're not ready yet or they would not continue to prop up this absolute ponzi scheme of an "economy".

When and if they do get the guts or feel ready for their final phase they'll start WWIII shortly after. Three world Wars were planned by the way, not just two. Albert Pike wrote about THREE World wars in the 1800's. At least 3 decades before the first one began, hmmmm.... Me thinks we're dealing with more than the power of mere human beings. These people work with "higher powers". No, not angels.

David Icke thinks these people get their power from aliens and actually communicate with them at the very top of the power structure. I don't believe in aliens. They're not aliens. They're fallen angels, demons.

This stuff is dimensional in nature not extraterrestrial.

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Old 10-06-2010, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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David Icke And Others On Creating Deliberate Economic Collapse - David Icke Website
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Old 10-06-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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A friend of mine just told me (he just recently retired with pension) that his company told him to apply for unemployment benefits. He told them he didn't need it, but they started sending him out unemployment checks. Basically when he started asking questions they got aggravated and just told him to take the money.
Umm, no. You can't get UI checks unless you apply. If he's getting them, then he applied for them. And if he retired, as opposed to being laid off, he doesn't qualify. He's lying one way or another.
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Old 10-06-2010, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Yes, and several adult kids of friends are getting extended unemployment all while working for pay under the table.
Then may I suggest you use your state's DOL fraud line to report them?
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Old 10-06-2010, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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So to you it is morally OK to take other peoples money, and be a leach on society, so long as you spend it and add some dollars to the GDP. In fact what limiting unemployment to the 26 weeks it was intended to be does, is force people who do not have marketable skills to accept the fact, and to accept employment at the level they are marketable at. There have been several articles lately concerning people who refuse to take lower paying jobs because they are receiving more by collecting unemployment. Sometimes life deals you a bad hand and you have to start over again. That’s just the way it is.
When the UE rate is hovering at between 4-5% which it traditionally is when we have "full employment" then yes, 26 weeks is and WAS sufficient to find new employment.

You need to pull your head out of wherever you keep it and look around you. MANY of the long term unemployed HAVE marketable skills, education and training, what they don't have is JOBS to utilise them.
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Old 10-06-2010, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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What we are seeing with the unemployment extension, is merely another facet of a crumbling system of governance
and their inability or unwillingness to deal with the root problems of this country. Many of us have long seen the welfare generation
grow into a second generation, a Medusa, which in principle, will always loom over us. This time around, welfare folk seem to get a
measure of validation for their time on the dole by "high-five-ing" the poor slob who had the economic rug pulled out on him, lost his
job and in his earnest to feed and to clothe his family, has joined them on the government tit. To the typical welfare recipient, it's only
social climbing.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:03 PM
 
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Any type of government subsidy/bailout is WELFARE, from unemployment insurance benefits to fortune 500 companies, same difference.
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:47 PM
 
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Spot on. The conservatives on these forums seem to be under the false impression that the "Powers that Be" (NO, not the President and politicians) give out welfare and unemployment benefits out of the goodness of their hearts or because they're sappy hearted liberals.

The real reason is they're not ready for the final phase, YET. And they're not ready to call in the National Guard and U.N. troops to secure civil order. Nor do they want to have to drive around in armoured convoys and hire bigger private security forces at the moment.

No, they (the top 1/2 of 1%) don't give a flying ***** about anyone not in one of their families or clubs. As a matter of fact the ultimate plan is to do away with around 95% of the world's population with them and about 500,000,000 of their personal feudal slaves left. They no longer want or need 6 billion serfs. They would be perfectly happy with half a billion.

Whether they succeed or not remains to be seen but they're not ready yet or they would not continue to prop up this absolute ponzi scheme of an "economy".

When and if they do get the guts or feel ready for their final phase they'll start WWIII shortly after. Three world Wars were planned by the way, not just two. Albert Pike wrote about THREE World wars in the 1800's. At least 3 decades before the first one began, hmmmm.... Me thinks we're dealing with more than the power of mere human beings. These people work with "higher powers". No, not angels.

David Icke thinks these people get their power from aliens and actually communicate with them at the very top of the power structure. I don't believe in aliens. They're not aliens. They're fallen angels, demons.

This stuff is dimensional in nature not extraterrestrial.
Good God, you have really fallen off your nut.

Let's assume all of this is true, and demons are telling rich people to destroy 95% of the population. Do you really think Americans would lay down and take this? It's one thing to cause wars between nations, which is possible, but you're trying to tell me you expect average americans to walk down the streets, blowing away other americans? You have to remember, the armed forces are made up by normal people, not elites (or brutes, for that matter. Though they might have some relation to the Flood.) or demons. It just doesn't make sense.

Know what, though? If that's what is going on behind the scenes, and we as a species actually WANT to wipe ourselves out, I say go for it. We wouldn't of made it anyways, not in this crazy Marvel universe of yours.
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:15 AM
 
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David Icke - "In April 1991 he announced on the BBC's Terry Wogan show that he was the son of God, and predicted that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.[5] The show changed his life, turning him practically overnight from a respected household name into an object of ridicule.[6] He continued nevertheless to develop his ideas..." - Wikipedia
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