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Yes, that is because Texas has a higher population. This is why I linked to per capita GSP which tells you how big the economy is relative to the population.
Also, what the other poster said about Austin is largely correct. What major technology company has grew out of Austin other than Dell? Austin does have a decent sized tech economy, but nothing like the bay area in scope or innovation. The jobs are mainly plain-vanilla types.
And Texas has a larger GDP, but a larger GDP growth too.And Texas had the best job growth these 10 last year.
Because it's a young economy booming ! You'll see, in 10 or 15 years it will be on par with the Bay Area, this city has many advantages for skilled people and high tech businesses : affordable housing, low taxes and interesting subsidies.
And Texas has a larger GDP, but a larger GDP growth too.
To say it again, Texas has a larger GDP than NY because its population is bigger. US GDP is much greater than France, does that mean that France is a 3rd world compared to the US? No, you have to look at GDP relative to population. You can do this by looking at per capita GDP/GSP. NY has a higher GSP than Texas, as a result its economy is larger relative to its population than Texas. Texas will probably catch-up at some point, but the reason I mentioned this was to refute the idea that the "blue states" were some economic wasteland. Its quite the contrary.
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You'll see, in 10 or 15 years it will be on par with the Bay Area....
That is very doubtful, cities like Portland and Seattle have a much better chance of being the "next silicone valley". The worse things about Texas are things that you can't do anything about, its flat and ugly landscape, its weather, etc. I'd much rather live in California than Texas, I just rather have my beautiful oceans, mountains, etc along with a good business climate.
People have been talking about the demise of NYC as the financial capital of the US forever and yet its still the financial capital of the US.
To say it again, Texas has a larger GDP than NY because its population is bigger. US GDP is much greater than France, does that mean that France is a 3rd world compared to the US? No, you have to look at GDP relative to population. You can do this by looking at per capita GDP/GSP. NY has a higher GSP than Texas, as a result its economy is larger relative to its population than Texas. Texas will probably catch-up at some point, but the reason I mentioned this was to refute the idea that the "blue states" were some economic wasteland. Its quite the contrary.
That is very doubtful, cities like Portland and Seattle have a much better chance of being the "next silicone valley". The worse things about Texas are things that you can't do anything about, its flat and ugly landscape, its weather, etc. I'd much rather live in California than Texas, I just rather have my beautiful oceans, mountains, etc along with a good business climate.
People have been talking about the demise of NYC as the financial capital of the US forever and yet its still the financial capital of the US.
Happy for you if you're rich.Most of people needs a job to survive, to live, and California doesn't supply that with the worst business climate in the nation.Texas does.
And weather is rather good in Texas, with a beautiful sun.It's not beautiful like California, but it's perfectly correct.And Austin is really a beautiful city
Many californians flee California to Texas, and it's not surprising honestly !
An interesting article from Los Angeles Times about that :
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Vietnamese-Americans flocking from SoCal to Houston
Over the holidays, the LA Times ran an interesting piece on the mass migration of Vietnamese-Americans from southern California to Houston (hat tip to Joel). Lots of good excerpts in here. Bold highlights mine.
Vietnamese Americans are lured to the Texas city by cheap real estate, a lower cost of living and a burgeoning cultural enclave.
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Nguyen is one of many Vietnamese Americans from California who have flocked to Houston, lured by cheap real estate, a lower cost of living, bountiful business opportunities and a thriving, growing Vietnamese community.
Houston offers a slice of the American Dream to Vietnamese Americans who couldn't find it in California.
In San Jose and Orange County, home to the country's largest Vietnamese enclaves, skyrocketing rents and staggering housing prices -- even in a down market -- have become too much for some.
"At first, we thought California is the best," Nguyen said. "It's sad to move from a place we know so well. But here we own a beautiful house and are very comfortable."
Vietnamese business owners from California have followed, expanding or moving their operations to take advantage of the burgeoning community and the lack of heavy competition that defines the teeming streets of Orange County's Little Saigon.
The Vietnamese American migration to Houston is a typical California story, particularly in immigrant communities where residents found their first footing in the Golden State but left for places where the cost of living was lower and the opportunities more abundant.
The exodus of Vietnamese Americans is part of a larger shift in California: As the economy weakens, more people are leaving. An annual study by the state Department of Finance released Wednesday showed that 89,000 more people moved out of California than moved in from elsewhere in the U.S. in fiscal 2007.
Houston's Vietnamese community, now the third largest in the nation, numbered about 85,000 in 2006 -- up a third in just six years, according to U.S. Census figures. (HAIF says 160-180K in the Houston metro; enclaves ranked here)
Community leaders and real estate agents in Houston say they started seeing an upswing in Vietnamese Americans from California five years ago, driven mostly by the city's cheaper housing. Although Hurricane Katrina brought in displaced Vietnamese Americans from Louisiana, residents say the California migration is much larger.
As people have flocked in, Houston businesses have capitalized, reaching out to Vietnamese Americans in California. Real estate agents have advertised houses in California's Vietnamese newspapers. Developers have tried to persuade businesses to expand to Houston. And talk shows on Radio Saigon Houston have spread the word of the booming community in simulcast shows picked up on California stations.
Houston is no longer the Vietnamese community's "best-kept secret," said Thuy Thanh Vu, the radio station's co-owner.
Houston's housing tale is remarkable. Real estate agents boast of clients who sell their California homes, pay for new ones in Houston at a third of the price and have enough left to invest.
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The median price for a single-family home in the Houston area is $145,390, according to the Houston Assn. of Realtors. In contrast, Westminster's median housing price is $520,000 and Garden Grove's is $475,000, according to DataQuick Information Services. In San Jose, it's $640,000.
"For what you pay for your mortgage in Houston, you can only afford a rat's hole in California," Vo tells clients.
Vo makes sure to put Houston's best face forward. She picks up prospective California clients from the airport and puts them up in hotels -- free of charge -- for a few nights. She drives clients around the Vietnamese areas, stopping at restaurants she's sure will impress them.
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Vietnamese businesses have sprouted in pockets throughout Houston, with most concentrated on a four-mile stretch of Bellaire Boulevard in the city's southwest area. The thoroughfare has striking similarities to Bolsa Avenue, Little Saigon's main drag.
There are Vietnamese supermarkets, large Catholic Vietnamese churches, Buddhist temples and restaurants hawking bowls of noodles that to visitors taste as good as those served in Little Saigon's pho houses. There are Vietnamese-speaking doctors, lawyers and real estate agents. Even the hottest Vietnamese pop stars stop in Houston.
Some Vietnamese-owned businesses from California see Houston's thriving enclave as an untapped market and have expanded their businesses.
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But Ho saw many open fields in Houston, which he believes will one day be home to new stores. Plus, the rent for opening a warehouse in Houston is about a third cheaper than in California.
Vietnamese American investors also are pumping millions of dollars into the area, which still has plenty of open space to build shopping complexes and housing subdivisions.
Developer Luu Trankiem is planning to open the New Saigon Shopping Plaza next year, a high-end center on 32 acres near Bellaire Boulevard. The plaza's seven high-rise buildings come at a price of about $300 million.
"You cannot afford to build something like this in California," he said, estimating it would cost three times as much in Southern California.
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Trankiem said he saw more opportunities for new businesses in Houston than in Little Saigon, which is congested with thousands of nail salons, restaurants and mom-and-pop shops in fierce competition.
"Houston is the last frontier for investment in the Asian community in the United States," Trankiem said.
Beyond Vietnamese-run business, prospective stores for the plaza also include Ann Taylor and Starbucks, mainstream shops that Little Saigon developers would have trouble luring to its worn-out strip malls.
Houston's Vietnamese enclave also benefits from its diversity. It's next to a long strip of Chinese businesses. Korean, Latino and Pakistani stores also pepper the area. In contrast, Little Saigon caters mostly to Vietnamese Americans.
Trankiem believes Houston's Vietnamese enclave could one day be the bigger, better, higher-end sister to Little Saigon.
Even so, Houston has its challenges. The oppressive humidity forces many to stay indoors during the summer, and some people who have bought homes for investment purposes have had trouble finding renters.
But those who have made the move have found the American Dream at near-bargain rates.
Nguyen's parents, who still rent in California, plan to move to Houston when they retire.
And she's thinking about opening an insurance business. She never thought that was a possibility in Little Saigon, where renting office space is expensive and there are too many competitors.
"Over in California, you're just average people," Nguyen said. "But here, you become upper middle class. You have more money than people over here. You can buy houses and do business."
More support for Houston as an Opportunity City. And it's not just SoCal Vietnamese-Americans. Has anybody else noted the surge in out-of-state license plates driving around lately? They're coming from all over. The secret is getting out.
Happy for you if you're rich.Most of people needs a job to survive, to live, and California doesn't supply that with the worst business climate in the nation.Texas does.
This is of course just silly hyperbole, the Texan unemployment rate is increasing just like everywhere else. Before the recession California was doing fine in terms of jobs, this recession has just been harder on California. In the past Texas has gotten beaten up worse than other states.
Do cities have a future? Pessimists point to industrial-era holdovers like Detroit and Cleveland. Urban boosters point to dense, expensive cities like New York, Boston and San Francisco. Yet if you want to see successful 21st-century urbanism, hop on down to Houston and the Lone Star State.
You won't be alone: Last year Houston added 141,000 residents, more than any region in the U.S. save the city's similarly sprawling rival, Dallas-Fort Worth. Over the past decade Houston's population has grown by 24%--five times the rate of San Francisco, Boston and New York. In that time it has attracted 244,000 new residents from other parts of the U.S., while older cities experienced high rates of out-migration. It is even catching up on foreign immigration, enjoying a rate comparable with New York's and roughly 50% higher than that of Boston or Chicago.
So what does Houston have that these other cities lack? Opportunity. Between 2000 and 2009 Houston's employment grew by 260,000. Greater New York City--with nearly three times the population of Houston--has added only 96,000 jobs. The Chicago area has lost 258,000 jobs, San Francisco 217,000, Los Angeles 168,000 and Boston 100,004.
Houston, the largest Texas city, created much more jobs.
I learn you one thing:
Between January 2010 and April 2010 Texas created 79,000 jobs, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, much more than other states !
Houston, the largest Texas city, created much more jobs.
Dude....you need to put your love-affair with Texas away and think about this stuff more objectively. Houston is growing rapidly in population so naturally it is going to be creating a lot of jobs. During the period you are citing Houston added around 280k people where as Los Angeles only added around 130k.
Even if more people wanted to move to Los Angeles, San Fransisco, etc they would not be able to. These areas are for the most part built out, where has Texas cities are still sprawling. Future population growth in California is going to occur in the inland empire, central valley, central coast and Northern California. These areas have growth rates that are similar to Texas.
If you like Texas that is great, just don't distort numbers to make it look like its some utopia.
Dude....you need to put your love-affair with Texas away and think about this stuff more objectively. Houston is growing rapidly in population so naturally it is going to be creating a lot of jobs. During the period you are citing Houston added around 280k people where as Los Angeles only added around 130k.
Even if more people wanted to move to Los Angeles, San Fransisco, etc they would not be able to. These areas are for the most part built out, where has Texas cities are still sprawling. Future population growth in California is going to occur in the inland empire, central valley, central coast and Northern California. These areas have growth rates that are similar to Texas.
If you like Texas that is great, just don't distort numbers to make it look like its some utopia.
There is a difference here between you and me : I give number and facts.You, you give theories and critics.
Sorry, but it's useless to continue this debate, I gave all numbers and stats to confirm what I say, it's enough !
This is amusing, I think Texas is definitely your sort of place! Again citing things without noting the nuance. There are a number of these "best states for business" and they all have different results, it just depends on what you look at.
You'd think that one would question such rankings when the country's largest and most innovate economy is ranked last. Obviously, important things are being left out.
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