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Old 06-28-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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The libraries in my area used to offer the free online version of Rosetta Stone. (Now, there's this Mango crap). I thought it was wonderful in terms learning to speak, however, it left gaps in the "whys" of some of the grammar. I've tried the demo of the regular version, and really liked it, but I can't see spending that much on it. There are other audio and/or audiovisual programs out there, some of which can be found free at the library. If I can find the time, it's also much cheaper to go to a local community college and take a language course, assuming the language is one offerred at the college.
The "gaps" are because Rosetta Stone aims to teach a language the same way that you learned your first language. At age 3, you wouldn't be saying, "now mommy, why is it I do, you do, but then he does and she does?" Because as adults we understand grammar (although most people do not understand the grammar structure of their first language as well as subsequently learned languages), we want to question this. To help with the Rosetta Stone program, grab a small grammar guide or dictionary to the selected language (usually $5 or less at Borders or BN). Also, make post-its of vocab or grammar and put them around your house so you associate the objects and actions with the new words.

But yes, Rosetta Stone really is a great way to learn a language, and if you think about the other options to learn : travel and spend time in the country where your language is spoken, or take classes at a local college, Rosetta Stone is MUCH cheaper.

And if it is WAY out of your price range, I have a 15-Minutes a day Chinese Program that was $19.99 at Borders and is really helpful.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I was thinking about getting Fluenz when I can afford it.
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Whittier
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I think Rosetta Stone would be an awesome companion to a college or extension course.
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Old 06-28-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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For how expensive it is, you also have to realise that the license agreement prohibits the buyer from onselling them after use (Which practice I personally find a little abhorrent but that's for another forum)

I'm currently comparing RS with Fluenz and on reading the reviews and the way the program is organised (along with the comment above) I'm definitely leaning towards the Fluenz.

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Old 07-02-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: NoVA
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I've tried numerous Rosetta Stone programs. I understand the reasoning for their particular approach, but I can't get fully absorbed into their curricula for reasons I can't fully explain. I've tried other programs like Rocket and Pimsleur and while none of them suck, none of them approach Fluenz in my opinion. This may just be personal preference, but I highly prefer a traditional classroom format for beginner-level language learning. Since that's not available to me, I went with what I think is the next best thing and bought Fluenz French 1 & 2. They just released level 3 and they've already started filming for level 4, so I'm afraid I'ma hafta whip out the debit card again.

Go to Amazon.com and read the reviews and ratings for Rosetta Stone, then compare that with Fluenz. Give Fluenz a try, there's a 99.9999% chance you'll like it!
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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Keep your expectations in check, as I've never, ever come across someone who learned using Rosetta Stone who could even carry a simple conversation in a foreign language. I don't know maybe that's not their claim, just saying that's a lot of money to spend to come away with some vocabulary in your head.

Save money and use one of the cheap/free online podcasts, there are excellent ones for almost every language with native speakers and good dialogs. Kinda like frenchpod.com, ww.learnitalianpod.com, etc.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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Keep your expectations in check, as I've never, ever come across someone who learned using Rosetta Stone who could even carry a simple conversation in a foreign language. I don't know maybe that's not their claim, just saying that's a lot of money to spend to come away with some vocabulary in your head.

Save money and use one of the cheap/free online podcasts, there are excellent ones for almost every language with native speakers and good dialogs. Kinda like frenchpod.com, ww.learnitalianpod.com, etc.
Yes and Learn a language where and when it suits you | Radio Lingua Network looks to be a good one too. I met some folks from the states when I was traveling in Peru and they had used that and were doing better with the language than the rest of the tourists I met.
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:44 PM
 
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Seriously I know a guy who's been trying to learn Japanese via Rosetta Stone forever, and granted that's no simple language to master but I can't ask him how to say something like "is she 23 years old yet" without him fumbling around for 30 seconds and finally coming up with something that he thinks might be right.

I've actually seen people who did Pimsleur (like all 90 half hour lessons) who are pretty sharp at least for basic conversation, but again that's some serious bucks unless you go pirate route. I think for the cost of three 30 lesson Pimsleurs for Spanish you could move to Nicaragua for a few months and come out ahead.
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:59 AM
 
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I recently purchased Instant Immersion Spanish levels 1,2 & 3 from Costco for $27.99. So far I am impressed with the program. It came with a cd that I can download to my ipod which I use. Costco carries Spanish, German, Italian and Chinese.
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Old 07-07-2010, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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there are download and torrent links out there.
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