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Old 09-19-2010, 07:42 PM
 
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Has there been a mandate in the past year for ALL SpEd students to be fully included in general education classes?

Suddenly SpEd teachers here have become teaching assistants whose primary responsibility is addressing inappropriate behavior in the classroom?

Did I miss this new amendment to IDEA? That every child will be in a general education class and SpEd teachers will "make it work?"
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Old 09-19-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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Has there been a mandate in the past year for ALL SpEd students to be fully included in general education classes?

Suddenly SpEd teachers here have become teaching assistants whose primary responsibility is addressing inappropriate behavior in the classroom?

Did I miss this new amendment to IDEA? That every child will be in a general education class and SpEd teachers will "make it work?"
There is the Least Restrictive Environment provision.
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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There is the Least Restrictive Environment provision.

That has been LAW since PL-94-142.

www.scn.org/~bk269/94-142.html

LRE says what ever setting best BENEFITS the student is LRE. If a student cannot sit in a gen ed class without throwing a chair or punching peers, the environment is not beneficial to them or others.

LRE does not say all SpEd student will be placed in gen ed classes no matter what, right?


Parents and educators have questions about inclusion. Many believe that the IDEA requires schools to practice inclusion. In fact, the term "inclusion" is relatively new and is not included in the IDEA statute or regulations. According to the IDEA's LRE or mainstreaming policy, school districts are required to educate students with disabilities in regular classrooms with their nondisabled peers, in the school they would attend if not disabled, to the maximum extent appropriate.

http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/lre.index.htm

I believe all students need LRE, but they also need to benefit from their placement do they not??

There is also the Continuum of Service that starts with inclusion and has provisions for inclusion with support, resource, departmentalized, self-contained, seperate, residential, and day treatment and can include homebound.
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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Ok then you know the law better than I. I though you were talking about students that need an aide not about violent kids. Are you a parent or a teacher?
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:32 AM
 
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A teacher. I have also filled the role as director. I am just amazed when schools take a severe emotional child and drop them in a gen ed room like it has to be their "right." Students who have done reasonably well in the past in a small group resource setting and are now thrown in a class with 25-30 other students.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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A teacher. I have also filled the role as director. I am just amazed when schools take a severe emotional child and drop them in a gen ed room like it has to be their "right." Students who have done reasonably well in the past in a small group resource setting and are now thrown in a class with 25-30 other students.
Perhaps YOU could request that a functional behavior assessment be done on these students? You may have to record some data yourself, but hopefully, the principal would realize that a specialist ought to go it to do the observations? However, a FBA should hopefully get to the root of the problem for the child and give you relief. Also, a book worth reading for any teacher with a special education child in their classroom: ROSS GREENE, "LOST AT SCHOOL."
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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Perhaps YOU could request that a functional behavior assessment be done on these students? You may have to record some data yourself, but hopefully, the principal would realize that a specialist ought to go it to do the observations? However, a FBA should hopefully get to the root of the problem for the child and give you relief. Also, a book worth reading for any teacher with a special education child in their classroom: ROSS GREENE, "LOST AT SCHOOL."

These are students who were IEP to a day treatment setting due to severe behaviors. I have taught SpEd for nearly 20 years in some capacity. I have worked with thes sever behavior students since I started SpEd. There just seems to be a push to move them to gen ed as if to prove there is no problem at the school...
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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Sigh, lack of funds. All of the classes are bigger and they've laid off quite a few sped teachers here so they're stretching the rest of them. I just got certified sped last year and now wondering if I should try another industry.
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:56 AM
 
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Sure seems to be lack of $. I experienced that in MI a few years ago and relocated to NC. I remember 5-10 years ago in MI that a lot of EI students suddenly became LD and there were fewer and fewer EI students?
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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I see you're in NC..."Something" happened last year, don't know when, but it is here where I live in NC as well, there is a push (I think it's budget related) to get kids out of spec. ed and into regular classrooms...I am all for this WHEN APPROPRIATE and when it's done right ("with appropriate modifications and supports" according to IDEA). Problem is, that to actually save money they can't afford to give the support part, as that would entail more hiring of classroom assistants. When the students (in our district) are still in separate classrooms they have cut staffing, last year there was one classroom, 9 students and two classroom assistants, plus the teacher, in my daughter's classroom. This year, they have taken all the spec ed students from another school, bussed them to our school and initially thought they'd keep all 16 in one classroom....that wasn't going to work so the have 8 each in two classrooms, each classroom has one teacher and one aide.....three of the students (at least) of these 16 had one on one assistants last year, this year none of them do. The needs of the students bussed from the other school are more significant overall than the needs of the students last year. When they needed more staffing they cut it down, and now all the students are suffering.
Sorry to ramble, but it really does come down to money it seems. I have been referring to the middle school classroom as "glorified daycare" for these students. Am trying to fight it but have not had a lot of success yet.
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