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Old 10-16-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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Are schools to blame or is is the child's parent not educating the child at home?
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Old 10-16-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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The schools generally reflect the parents. You can't expect good schools without a preponderance of parents are do their job in furthering their children's education. Where the parents can't, or won't, hold up their end of the bargain, schools fail. Schools don't operate in a vacuum.
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:15 PM
 
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The schools generally reflect the parents. You can't expect good schools without a preponderance of parents are do their job in furthering their children's education. Where the parents can't, or won't, hold up their end of the bargain, schools fail. Schools don't operate in a vacuum.

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Old 10-16-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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It is all the parents. 100% of it is parents.
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:06 PM
 
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Although there are many factors that play into our suffering eductional systems, parents are primarily responsible for the educational downturn. Regardless of how great an eductional system or program, if students go home to parents that are not supportive; barely help them with their homework, or do their homework for them; treat school as if it's merely a babysitter; don't instill values, morals, or ethics; live dysfunctional lifestyles before them; don't respect them; or invest in them in a positive manner, it's very difficult for students to succeed and/or be able to concentrate well enough to master essential concepts and skills. Many young people today are burdened by the actions and inaction of their parents. We all must sacrifice and commit to providing young people with healthy and well-balanced lifestyles so they can have a fighting chance at success.
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:11 PM
 
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The schools generally reflect the parents. You can't expect good schools without a preponderance of parents are do their job in furthering their children's education. Where the parents can't, or won't, hold up their end of the bargain, schools fail. Schools don't operate in a vacuum.
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:14 PM
 
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Well it seems like every one who posted so far believes that parents are resposible for a child's education. When then do people bash teachers and schools? Do you think people just don't want to admit that they are to blame for their child being ignorant?
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:25 PM
 
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Are schools to blame or is is the child's parent not educating the child at home?
The answer is d. All of the above.

Society is the problem. The way we view education is the problem. Schools are trying to be everything to everyone. Parents aren't instilling good work ethics in kids or teaching them to respect adults. Parents teach their kids they're the center of the universe and everything should cater to them. Kids don't appreciate the education they are being handed on a silver platter. Kids think everything has to be fun and they should be entertained all the time because, from the time they are born, they are.

There is no one area to fix here. Schools have to get back to the business of educating. Parents need to teach their kids that they are expected to work hard, respect their elders and to appreciate the education they are being handed. The media needs to stop bombarding kids with messages telling them they need this, that and the other thing to be happy. We need to unplug them from video games and phones. We need to take them out of an instant response, instant gratification world. Learning is hard work.

I'm rambling but you get the point. You can't look for one area to fix. However, if you fix how society views education.... If we can get to the point that it is seen as valuable and worth working hard to achieve, the rest will fall into place. It's our attitude about education that is the root of the problem. Right now, we expect the schools to do it all and they can't. Kids need to arrive at school ready to listen, work hard and learn. To achieve that, we need a MAJOR attitude adjustment.
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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The answer is d. All of the above.

Society is the problem. The way we view education is the problem. Schools are trying to be everything to everyone. Parents aren't instilling good work ethics in kids or teaching them to respect adults. Parents teach their kids they're the center of the universe and everything should cater to them. Kids don't appreciate the education they are being handed on a silver platter. Kids think everything has to be fun and they should be entertained all the time because, from the time they are born, they are.

There is no one area to fix here. Schools have to get back to the business of educating. Parents need to teach their kids that they are expected to work hard, respect their elders and to appreciate the education they are being handed. The media needs to stop bombarding kids with messages telling them they need this, that and the other thing to be happy. We need to unplug them from video games and phones. We need to take them out of an instant response, instant gratification world. Learning is hard work.

I'm rambling but you get the point. You can't look for one area to fix. However, if you fix how society views education.... If we can get to the point that it is seen as valuable and worth working hard to achieve, the rest will fall into place. It's our attitude about education that is the root of the problem. Right now, we expect the schools to do it all and they can't. Kids need to arrive at school ready to listen, work hard and learn. To achieve that, we need a MAJOR attitude adjustment.
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Old 10-16-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Well it seems like every one who posted so far believes that parents are resposible for a child's education. When then do people bash teachers and schools? Do you think people just don't want to admit that they are to blame for their child being ignorant?
I think it's the school's job to educate kids but before we can do that, someone has to teach them to respect their elders and to want the education they are being handed. Someone also has to deal with all the issues that have been heaped on the schools simply because every child attends school. We need to decide if the purpose of school is mainstreaming special ed kids or educating to the highest standard possible. We need to accept that not every child is college bound and quit putting them all in the same classes and treating them like they're all the same. Some kids just aren't cut out to be rocket scientists but the rocket scientists in the bunch should not be held back because other kids aren't like them.
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