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At our school there are many Asians and Indians in music. My son recently made the All County Orchestra and I just took at look at the list of kids that made the All County Orchestra from our school and 5 of the 8 middle schoolers were Asian/Indian. From the high school only 1 of 6 were Asian/Indian.
I wonder if music is something that Asian parents only let the younger kids study?
At our school there are many Asians and Indians in music. My son recently made the All County Orchestra and I just took at look at the list of kids that made the All County Orchestra from our school and 5 of the 8 middle schoolers were Asian/Indian. From the high school only 1 of 6 were Asian/Indian.
I wonder if music is something that Asian parents only let the younger kids study?
Yes, I wish I could take you to the carnatic music workshops back home. You'll see droves of young Brahmin kids doing the Sa Re Ga Ma, the veena and the flute. While the girls will be taking up Barathanatyam dance classes
It's cultural and somewhat religious too. It's also believed that singing and musical notes enhances younger brains.
I don't know what to say. I miss the real Indians, those who hurl soda bottles at cops, cut classes and go to movies and break into brothels and Islamic women hostels. You can never see that here. They will all be lining up in the spelling bee contest
Cool Indians do not exist in America (except me). I always run into westerner wannabes.
Thanks for clearing that up! I was certain this was the case.
What do you guys feel attribute to why Asians tend to generally be ahead of the class?
The stereotype of the tiger mom comes into play, though we are not Chinese. My parents came from a 3rd world country where education is highly regarded. In my country, the parents are highly responsible for raising their children. It's a duty not just to myself, but the whole family and community of our race. It's not entirely the same way that Americans see it but it's the same idea. Being born here, it wouldn't matter if I was still "American". I was still raised with Asian parents to follow their views and attitudes. Again Asian parents are very conservative and much more strict than Americans. They have power and must be treated with respect from their children. Also, there are not very many good opportunities in my parents home country and and if anything, they lack behind US/world standards. So they come here raising kids to take advantage of these opportunities as much as possible.
But there is always a rule to the exception. I'm not very good at math but I want to pursue into IT. Lots of cultures can succeed in their own way but I can understand why people highly regard Asians and their path to succeed.
At my kids High School the top students are always the Asian immmigrants. Usually they are the girls and usually they are from China, Korea or India. 8 out of 10 of the top students are girls.
But the problem is the immigrants are rarely involved in classroom discussions or in clubs, sports, music or other non class options.
Is this true in your school?
Are "immigrants" the top students at your High School?
Not entirely but some of them were born here to immigrant parents.
At our school there are many Asians and Indians in music. My son recently made the All County Orchestra and I just took at look at the list of kids that made the All County Orchestra from our school and 5 of the 8 middle schoolers were Asian/Indian. From the high school only 1 of 6 were Asian/Indian.
I wonder if music is something that Asian parents only let the younger kids study?
The Suzuki music method is embraced by many Asian Americans (and non-Asians as well). This method encourages kids to start lessons very early (at 3 even) and follow a very strict practice regiment. Students follow a sequence in the Suzuki books and must perfectly play a piece (as it is written including fingering) and are not allowed to progress to the next piece until this is done. Creative interpretation of pieces (e.g. changing key, tempo, fingering) is frowned upon. The child should learn the piece exactly as it is written in the official book and should not deviate from it. They are also supposed to constantly be listening to this same piece on the Suzuki CD.
My kids started with this method but it was killing their love for music. They actually left the program to start a rock band which gave them more creative freedom. They are now back in orchestra again and doing very well, but a high proportion of the Suzuki students have dropped out. I think they were burned out from the method. But our teachers were very critical and hardcore on the Suzuki method. Maybe there are more flexible Suzuki methods out there that have better longterm results.
BTW, the Kumon math method has a very similar format of relentless repetition before progression to new topics (drill & kill). There are many benefits to Suzuki and Kumon, but building a love for the subject matter and encouraging creative thought is not one of them IMO.
In my district, there seem to be many more Indians kids involved in team sports (e.g. basketball, soccer, running) than the Korean, Chinese, or Japanese students who I rarely see in organized team sports. I'm not sure why that happens. I think involvement in team sports in highly beneficial to developing teamwork/leadership skills. Many of the Indian kids I know seem really successful in balancing a lot of things - academics, sports, music, social life, etc.
In my district, there seem to be many more Indians kids involved in team sports (e.g. basketball, soccer, running) than the Korean, Chinese, or Japanese students who I rarely see in organized team sports. I'm not sure why that happens. I think involvement in team sports in highly beneficial to developing teamwork/leadership skills. Many of the Indian kids I know seem really successful in balancing a lot of things - academics, sports, music, social life, etc.
Because they are home doing homework! My guess is their parents would view it as a waist of time that takes away from the studying - like previously said, too much focus on one area comes at a cost of missing out on other things.
Thanks for clearing that up! I was certain this was the case.
What do you guys feel attribute to why Asians tend to generally be ahead of the class?
Like it was mentioned - it's the opportunities, which are lacking in the countries they left behind. Even though the US has seen it's better days, compared to other countries in the world, it offers a higher average standard of living and an opportunity to improve one's socioeconomic status or achieve success in any field they choose, if they are willing to study and work hard.
The chance to move to the US for these people is like winning a lottery, and not trying hard would be like not cashing in your ticket!
This is why it's disconcerting to see when people who were born here don't realize how good they have it and take these opportunities for granted...
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I was certain this was the case.
