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I was eating my Reese's Puffs this morning watching the news and saw a young man just about ready to graduate HS at the top of his class mention that he has had nothing but straight A's since the sixth grade? How is this possible? How can this guy who was quite overweight ace gym class??? "A" for effort?
Where was my "A" for effort in Calculus? Spent many a night doing homework till near midnight. My lesson wasn't in the simple C grade I received but a far more valuable lesson in life I took away from it. Life isn't fair, deal with it. I'm genetically dispositioned to be mildly retarded I suppose but I get by...and have done well for myself.
Out in the "real world" I wish I was hired for my education but quickly found it was more my personality as well as looks that were more advantageous. Am I wrong here? Any other experiences? And I'm in the position where I hire other employees and I like to see healthy individuals because in my mind I connect that with ambition, high spirits, intelligence, as well as self-control. If you can't even control your own body, one person, how are you going to control many? And how will those men/women see you and will they respect you? Whether this is true or not doesn't matter, it is the idea of it that will prevent a foot in the door.
I remember when I was in middle school (6-8) and our gym teacher flat out said it was impossible for any boy or girl to get an A who didn't make it to the top of the rope, over two stories up. I mean we had to climb up and slap the rafter of the gym. Didn't make it in the 6th grade but did in the 7th along with only a few others. Why? Because most nights after school before the buses arrived, I would do pull-ups in the gym. And that simple rope challenge set me on a lifelong course for healthy living and physical development. Our gym teacher didn't care about all the PC at the time, he laid it out how it was and stuck to his guns despite all the parental pressure...and I respect him for that.
Just my opinion but I think a 6:30 mile for a HS student is a very reasonable request for an "Excellence" grade. That IS what the grade stands for "Excellence." Not impossible but with work, achievable. Now I know it may be forever impossible for 5'0 tall cankle girl but thats life.
I was eating my Reese's Puffs this morning watching the news and saw a young man just about ready to graduate HS at the top of his class mention that he has had nothing but straight A's since the sixth grade? How is this possible? How can this guy who was quite overweight ace gym class??? "A" for effort?
Where was my "A" for effort in Calculus? Spent many a night doing homework till near midnight. My lesson wasn't in the simple C grade I received but a far more valuable lesson in life I took away from it. Life isn't fair, deal with it. I'm genetically dispositioned to be mildly retarded I suppose but I get by...and have done well for myself.
Out in the "real world" I wish I was hired for my education but quickly found it was more my personality as well as looks that were more advantageous. Am I wrong here? Any other experiences? And I'm in the position where I hire other employees and I like to see healthy individuals because in my mind I connect that with ambition, high spirits, intelligence, as well as self-control. If you can't even control your own body, one person, how are you going to control many? And how will those men/women see you and will they respect you? Whether this is true or not doesn't matter, it is the idea of it that will prevent a foot in the door.
I remember when I was in middle school (6-8) and our gym teacher flat out said it was impossible for any boy or girl to get an A who didn't make it to the top of the rope, over two stories up. I mean we had to climb up and slap the rafter of the gym. Didn't make it in the 6th grade but did in the 7th along with only a few others. Why? Because most nights after school before the buses arrived, I would do pull-ups in the gym. And that simple rope challenge set me on a lifelong course for healthy living and physical development. Our gym teacher didn't care about all the PC at the time, he laid it out how it was and stuck to his guns despite all the parental pressure...and I respect him for that.
Just my opinion but I think a 6:30 mile for a HS student is a very reasonable request for an "Excellence" grade. That IS what the grade stands for "Excellence." Not impossible but with work, achievable. Now I know it may be forever impossible for 5'0 tall cankle girl but thats life.
Solution: Stop giving out grades in elementary school PE - just make it pass or fail until high school and then make it an elective.
I was eating my Reese's Puffs this morning watching the news and saw a young man just about ready to graduate HS at the top of his class mention that he has had nothing but straight A's since the sixth grade? How is this possible? How can this guy who was quite overweight ace gym class??? "A" for effort?
Where was my "A" for effort in Calculus? Spent many a night doing homework till near midnight. My lesson wasn't in the simple C grade I received but a far more valuable lesson in life I took away from it. Life isn't fair, deal with it. I'm genetically dispositioned to be mildly retarded I suppose but I get by...and have done well for myself.
Out in the "real world" I wish I was hired for my education but quickly found it was more my personality as well as looks that were more advantageous. Am I wrong here? Any other experiences? And I'm in the position where I hire other employees and I like to see healthy individuals because in my mind I connect that with ambition, high spirits, intelligence, as well as self-control. If you can't even control your own body, one person, how are you going to control many? And how will those men/women see you and will they respect you? Whether this is true or not doesn't matter, it is the idea of it that will prevent a foot in the door.
I remember when I was in middle school (6-8) and our gym teacher flat out said it was impossible for any boy or girl to get an A who didn't make it to the top of the rope, over two stories up. I mean we had to climb up and slap the rafter of the gym. Didn't make it in the 6th grade but did in the 7th along with only a few others. Why? Because most nights after school before the buses arrived, I would do pull-ups in the gym. And that simple rope challenge set me on a lifelong course for healthy living and physical development. Our gym teacher didn't care about all the PC at the time, he laid it out how it was and stuck to his guns despite all the parental pressure...and I respect him for that.
Just my opinion but I think a 6:30 mile for a HS student is a very reasonable request for an "Excellence" grade. That IS what the grade stands for "Excellence." Not impossible but with work, achievable. Now I know it may be forever impossible for 5'0 tall cankle girl but thats life.
Bit of a hypocrite aren't you?
You just said you are in shape and barely got a C in calculus and then said healthy people are more intelligent? Meanwhile a fat kid is valedictorian? Seems to be YOU are the one with the skewed sense of what's valuable.
Meanwhile you brag about your looks being more valuable than suceeding in education and you want to take even that away from the chunky kid?
Just. Wow.
Last edited by toobusytoday; 03-23-2012 at 06:24 AM..
Reason: removed the supreme idiocy comment
You seem a bit fat phobic and jealous of this intelligent overweight young man. I'm open to being wrong, but that's what it sounds like.
You begin your post by mentioning the junk food you're eating for breakfast, and end by telling us about your lifetime of fitness. In the middle, you reveal your own academic struggles.... something this young man has obviously had no problems with. And then you take a pot shot at the overweight females for good measure. "Cankle girls," huh?
Physical fitness has nothing to do with academics. Sure, there is much respect to be given to people who excel in that area. But there is much respect to be given to ANYONE who does something really well, be it someone who works hard to maintain a lean, toned body.... someone who skateboards really well.... or a chubby person who is gifted academically.
For him not to be honored for his hard work, over not being able to climb a rope? Like that would really be fair. I think overweight people deal with enough.
Last edited by MSPLove; 03-22-2012 at 08:41 PM..
Reason: changed "really smart" to "gifted academically." i don't want to imply that those who struggle in school aren't smart.
You just said you are in shape and barely got a C in calculus and then said healthy people are more intelligent? Meanwhile a fat kid is valedictorian? Seems to be YOU are the one with the skewed sense of what's valuable.
Meanwhile you brag about your looks being more valuable than suceeding in education and you want to take even that away from the chunky kid?
Just. Wow.
Reread that and stop seeing what you want to see.
Last edited by toobusytoday; 03-23-2012 at 06:25 AM..
Superficial hypocrites come in many forms and always seem to contradict themselves, sometimes in the same sentence but generally in the same paragraph.
Solution: Stop giving out grades in elementary school PE - just make it pass or fail until high school and then make it an elective.
I think it should always be pass-fail. Half the A-students I know are not A-grade athletes. While school is meant to develop the whole person, there is a reason to grade the 3Rs, because it translates into the ability to work on a major in college or in a trade. Grading PE can be divisive.
I think both of my kids have had fairly decent experiences in PE...it is graded past the elementary school level.
I didn't love PE when I was a kid, so I was pleasantly surprised that PE seems, at least for both of my kids, to be a more well thought out program than what it was for me.
When people hear the opinions of people like OP, and they think that is what the PE experience should be, others have no problems seeing PE get cut to almost nothing.
Hope I made sense.
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