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I once worked for an administrator whose credo was this: speak to and treat your students the way you would if their parents were standing right behind you. In loco parentis...
I'm sure if he asked he would post the whole 6 hours of tape. That is not the point though. I don't care what context was used, it is unacceptable to call any child a bastard or to tell kids to shut their mouths. It is also unacceptable to talk about getting drunk and puking. It is also unacceptable to tell this poor boy that "no" he won't see his dad after his mom, especially when they knew what the boy was talking about and they intentionally set out to hurt his feelings.
How about what the teachers did to this child? They are adults and therefore responsible for their actions. The school board is obviously sweeping this under the rug and that is why the dad did this. All he wants in an apology from these people and they don't even have the common decency to give it to him.
As I said, with my volume full blast I do not hear someone call the child a bas****. I hear some talk in the background and then dad says they called him a bas****. I have to wonder why the mic didn't pick up this as clearly as it picked up the other comments?
I have said the alchohol talk was inexcusable and it sounds like the person who did that was fired for doing so.
As to telling him no to seeing dad after mom, have you ever misunderstood a question and answered incorrectly? You may find this hard to believe but teachers are not perfect. I misspeak or misanswer questions all the time. It's not intentional. Yes, the teacher said no but you have no idea whether this was to be mean. Dad says it was but he doesn't know either. He's just trying to do as much damage as possible and he may fry for that yet give he's published this tape without the consent of people who never gave their consent to make it in the first place.
From listening to what dad published, it sounds like the aide is the one making the comments yet he's attacking the teacher. The aide has been fired. Dad wants to see the teacher's head roll. I'm going to defer to the school board, which, undoubtedly, heard the entire tape and their decision to keep her on.
As I said, if you taped my entire day and picked out my worst moments to put into one 5 minute tape, I'd look pretty bad. I'm going to guess there were some good moments too that dad chose not to devulge.
Only a fool believes one side of a story. I think the fact the school did not fire her is telling of what is on the rest of the tape.
I would have no problem being taped all day long when I was a teacher. I would have issues though, with things being taken out of context.
I have personally seen very unprofessional behavior by staff. Everyone knows who the bad teachers are in a school. The ones who slide by with poor reviews and lazy administrators who don't document the issues.
I once worked for an administrator whose credo was this: speak to and treat your students the way you would if their parents were standing right behind you. In loco parentis...
I agree with that. Now if I can just get my students to do that.
Actually, I will be. I've been given permission to record my classes . My guess is behavior issues are going to drop to nothing when the camera goes in....
I'm sitting here thinking "There but for the grace of God go I". I have one class that is testing my mettle and I handle them better on some days than others. God forbid someone decided to record me during that class and take the worst snippets out of context to put on the internet. Sometimes, you need to know what happened in the half hour leading up to a comment. While not right, sometimes, it's understandable why something was said. I have a couple of students who push the limits then act like angels when it comes time to talk to parents. I will be so glad when the camera is installed. I'm thinking I won't tell the kids right away . It might do good for mom and dad to SEE how their little angel behaves when they aren't looking. Of course, I am not stupid enough to do something like post the video on the internet. You'd have to be a fool to do that because you're risking everything.
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I would have no problem being taped all day long when I was a teacher. I would have issues though, with things being taken out of context.
I have personally seen very unprofessional behavior by staff. Everyone knows who the bad teachers are in a school. The ones who slide by with poor reviews and lazy administrators who don't document the issues.
ITA!
I asked to have a camera put in my room because I can't seem to both conduct labs and keep one of my classes from damaging equipment. I need eyes in the back of my head. The camera will be those eyes. It will also record me, of course which will protect me as I can prove my behavior.
It is out of context. It's snippets of audio without the advantage of hearing what lead up to what was said.
The alcohol talk was inexcusable any way you slice it but I have heard very good special ed teachers tell students to shut their mouths or that their tantrums will not get them anywhere. If you played just a recording of that and not the half hour that led up to the incident you might think they were awful teachers when they're not. We don't have the advantage of hearing the entire tape like the school board that decided not to fire the teacher did.
I'm sorry, but I have to question your judgement if you think a good teacher would ever say that.
I would have no problem being taped all day long when I was a teacher. I would have issues though, with things being taken out of context.
I have personally seen very unprofessional behavior by staff. Everyone knows who the bad teachers are in a school. The ones who slide by with poor reviews and lazy administrators who don't document the issues.
This goes doubly for paras. I have worked with districts who take the special ed para role seriously, view it as critical to student growth, and pay for and retain quality professionals. I have also worked with districts who take bottom of the barrel trash, who are all that apply because the position isn't held in esteem, respected, or compensated decently. Whichever way it goes is usuallly a reflection of the administration's attitude toward how thie special ed program is run...do they want excellence, or is it about plugging in warm bodies to keep kids occupied? Whatever you hired is what you get.
I would have no problem being taped all day long when I was a teacher. I would have issues though, with things being taken out of context.
I have personally seen very unprofessional behavior by staff. Everyone knows who the bad teachers are in a school. The ones who slide by with poor reviews and lazy administrators who don't document the issues.
Ditto. I video-taped myself pretty often when I was a teacher and then turned them in to the administration at the end of the year to use in my evaluation. These days no one ever observes or evaluates me, but I keep telling them anyone is welcome in my classroom anytime.
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. My guess is behavior issues are going to drop to nothing when the camera goes in....
