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Free education is free education. When any part of it has to be paid for, then it is not free anymore, and there is then no difference between the USA and Congo.
Yes, I do want to include in a public education the things that *I* find to be "basic". So what? It's my opinion.
I'm thrilled that other parents (like me, btw) pay for lessons, sports, and classes. Wow, is that now considered something unique or special? You have kids, you pay for them....is that a novel concept? Again, charity is a wonderful thing. It's also voluntary. Just because I donate to charities doesn't mean that everyone should be FORCED to contribute- which is what taxes are. Taxes are "donations" at gunpoint. But I don't suppose you understand that.
And your opinion is filled with more holes than swiss cheese.
Music classes are >curricular<.....just like math, science and history. They are no less a part of the regular school day than anything else.
By your flawed illogic, parents should be directly paying for microscopes, chalk, and every other school supply for >curricular< courses.
Kids in music classes are already paying far more into their programs than they are taking out of it.
Again....it may be your opinion, but your opinion is fatally flawed.
Free education is free education. When any part of it has to be paid for, then it is not free anymore, and there is then no difference between the USA and Congo.
Our free education is paid for by our taxes. It's not *really* free. It is subsidized.
One thing our school bought (when the budget went south) was a photocopier which could copy consumable workbooks. Are the sheets that come home particularly pretty? No. But they do serve a purpose, and it was a whole lot cheaper than buying books.
It also violates copyright laws....
You can buy consumables that are legally reproducible.
Our free education is paid for by our taxes. It's not *really* free. It is subsidized.
Umm -- it's free to the USERS. To use your reasoning, we don't have free elections in this country either. The cost of conducting the election and verifying the results is paid for by our taxes.
And your opinion is filled with more holes than swiss cheese.
Music classes are >curricular<.....just like math, science and history. They are no less a part of the regular school day than anything else.
By your flawed illogic, parents should be directly paying for microscopes, chalk, and every other school supply for >curricular< courses.
Kids in music classes are already paying far more into their programs than they are taking out of it.
Again....it may be your opinion, but your opinion is fatally flawed.
I think that we disagree on what subjects should be included in a 'basic education', and that's fine. I'm not afraid of disagreement. It's not about logic, it's about opinion.
Umm -- it's free to the USERS. To use your reasoning, we don't have free elections in this country either. The cost of conducting the election and verifying the results is paid for by our taxes.
Do you think that the parents don't pay taxes?
Now, they may not pay the entire cost of the child's education, which is why I say it is subsidized, but they too pay taxes, so the school is not entirely free. Depending on where you live and how much property tax you pay, you pay a hefty price for that education. Even if you rent, btw, you pay property taxes because the landlord passes a good portion of it to his renters.
I went to a private school and had to pay for books grades 7-12.
To require that in public school would be absolutely ridiculous. Public school education should be free. I spent something like $600 on textbooks my junior year of high school. I spent around $300-400 in 7th grade.
When I did attend a public school, we checked our books out of the library at the beginning of the year and when we turned them in at the end of the year, they noted the condition. If it was lost, stolen, or damaged, we had to pay.
Well, we buy breakfast and lunch for the kids whose parents can't afford that so I guess books make sense, either that or "family planning". I favor paying for the "family planning".
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