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Old 07-22-2012, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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This works well for us (all times are "more or less":
1st quarter: Mid July - Late September
3 week break
2nd quarter: Early October - Christmas
3+ week break
3d quarter: Mid January to late March
3 week break
4th quarter: Early April - Early June
5 week or so summer break

Parents, students, and teachers love it. Only problem, minimal teacher turnover.
That is very similar to the two "modified" calendars I posted. I take it your last sentence is sarcasm?
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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I, too, would love the 9-on, 3-off schedule. Longer breaks during the year and still having a good 'long enough' summer break.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:26 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Hey, I loved it as a kid. But we used our summers to travel all over the world, swimming and riding lessons, inventing things, etc...so that is probably different than the average kid's experience.

I would have hated and fought year-round tooth and nail.

However, if the kid doesn't know anything different, then they can't really complain.

We're not farmers anymore. Kids can go to school all year.
I suspect the problem is the $$$$$.

I am also in favor of uniforms. But that's a different topic...

Lol...my kid self would come here and kick my adult self's ass if she could!

The other thing I am against is this mandatory attendance thing. Used to be that parents could pull kids out of school for important other stuff...now you'll get in trouble and get hauled off to court. This is one reason I am considering private school for my son despite our living in a very top notch public district. I should have final word. My parents would pull me out of school to go to Europe or Hong Kong or a bunch of stuff that was WAY more eye-opening and educational than sitting and doing times tables again for the fifth week in a row.
Year-round school would solve that problem, too...

Stan, in terms of mandatory attendance, and pulling kids out of school, I agree. I'm the parent and ultimately I should decide what is more important to my child - a random day at school or the opportunity to go abroad for a week. I already know the answer to that.

This is what I've found. Wealthy and high performing districts are more lenient in this regard. Where as low performing low rated districts tend to be more anal and require all sorts of documentation for anything.

They are also less receptive to parental suggestions, requests or demands.
before la
I have no problem sending my children to safe, high performing public schools.
When I lived in that sort of area I did.

Now that I don't, they attend an independent school.

As far as summer VaCa, keep it as it is, but stop the silly trend of beginning school before Labor Day, which gets in the way of many things such as travel, parties and other family events.
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:30 PM
 
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Stan, in terms of mandatory attendance, and pulling kids out of school, I agree. I'm the parent and ultimately I should decide what is more important to my child - a random day at school or the opportunity to go abroad for a week. I already know the answer to that.

This is what I've found. Wealthy and high performing districts are more lenient in this regard. Where as low performing low rated districts tend to be more anal and require all sorts of documentation for anything.
They are also less receptive to parental suggestions, requests or demands. before la
I have no problem sending my children to safe, high performing public schools.
When I lived in that sort of area I did.

Now that I don't, they attend an independent school.

As far as summer VaCa, keep it as it is, but stop the silly trend of beginning school before Labor Day, which gets in the way of many things such as travel, parties and other family events.
Where as low performing low rated districts tend to be more anal and require all sorts of documentation for anything. You mean like lots of real jobs that require documentation? The longer we shelter kids the more of a shock the real world will be.

They are also less receptive to parental suggestions, requests or demands. With all due respect, we are the teachers and the experts in education. While I will always listen to what a parent has to say, I am going to go with my professional opinion on something. Do teachers tell you how to do your job?
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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Where as low performing low rated districts tend to be more anal and require all sorts of documentation for anything. You mean like lots of real jobs that require documentation? The longer we shelter kids the more of a shock the real world will be.

They are also less receptive to parental suggestions, requests or demands. With all due respect, we are the teachers and the experts in education. While I will always listen to what a parent has to say, I am going to go with my professional opinion on something. Do teachers tell you how to do your job?

If my job involved anything to do with their kids, they sure would !
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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If my job involved anything to do with their kids, they sure would !
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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With all due respect, we are the teachers and the experts in education. While I will always listen to what a parent has to say, I am going to go with my professional opinion on something. Do teachers tell you how to do your job?
Something you might want to think about: parents have also been students themselves. They've been inside many classrooms and had many teachers.

How long have you been teaching? No offense, but calling yourself an "expert in education" might be a little premature.
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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Something you might want to think about: parents have also been students themselves. They've been inside many classrooms and had many teachers.

How long have you been teaching? No offense, but calling yourself an "expert in education" might be a little premature.
I've been a patient in doctor's offices and hospitals. Does that make me an expert on healthcare? I don't care if the doctor has only been practicing for a year, they are more of an expert than I am. I've also been inside quite a few auto repair shops. That apprentice mechanic is more of an expert than me. My point is that you don't argue with people who are specialized in something.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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I've been a patient in doctor's offices and hospitals. Does that make me an expert on healthcare? I don't care if the doctor has only been practicing for a year, they are more of an expert than I am. I've also been inside quite a few auto repair shops. That apprentice mechanic is more of an expert than me. My point is that you don't argue with people who are specialized in something.
Sure you do if you have knowledge of the subject.

Shoot, I pointed out a possible engine problem on my car to a mechanic just today. He complimented me on my knowledge of cars. (And I'm not making my living changing oil and rotating tires.)

Open your mind. And I'm urging you to do this in a good way. There is ALWAYS someone who knows more about a subject than you do. Always. And if that's a parent and you have the attitude that "I'm a teacher, I'm all-knowing" you are NEVER going to learn from them. Ever. Be open to them! Being open to new ideas and different concepts is a good thing! It's how we grow.
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I've been a patient in doctor's offices and hospitals. Does that make me an expert on healthcare? I don't care if the doctor has only been practicing for a year, they are more of an expert than I am. I've also been inside quite a few auto repair shops. That apprentice mechanic is more of an expert than me. My point is that you don't argue with people who are specialized in something.
I don't tell my doctor how to do her job...well not usually. I did demand a full blood work up once because I didn't believe that my fatigue was just post partum fatigue. It wasn't.

I did tell my mechanic I need an alternater on my car yesterday but I've known it was going for some time. It just gave up the ghost yesterday.

FTR, I'm a teacher and I don't tell my children's teacher how to do their job. It's not my place.
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