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Old 07-18-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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My school year has been already reduced by 5 days without pay, and to have it reduced by 15 more. All I can say is REALLY!!!! Governor Brown has said that if we don't get this tax initiative passed, then he will be forced to cut more spending for our schools where every school district would have to have 15 mandatory furlough days. For me, and most teacher, that is a hefty pay cut.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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California is belly-up, flat busted broke.

If the tax initiative isn't passed a lot more than "just" schools are going to be affected.

Brown is one of the most frugal politicians this country has ever produced. And he's not afraid of being unpopular. I feel for you. I feel even more for your students. But were I you, I'd buckle up.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They always go for teachers, firemen and police right off the bat when money is short.

From the Governor's office down the chain of command to the teacher, there's no place along that line to cut ?
Sounds like fear mongering.."pass this bill or else there will be no teachers for your kids".
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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My school year has been already reduced by 5 days without pay, and to have it reduced by 15 more. All I can say is REALLY!!!! Governor Brown has said that if we don't get this tax initiative passed, then he will be forced to cut more spending for our schools where every school district would have to have 15 mandatory furlough days. For me, and most teacher, that is a hefty pay cut.
Well, I wouldn't be turning in sub plans for the day that's for sure.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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From the Governor's office down the chain of command to the teacher, there's no place along that line to cut ?
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The Governor and other state lawmakers will see their pay cut by 5% as of December 3, 2012.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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California is belly-up, flat busted broke.

If the tax initiative isn't passed a lot more than "just" schools are going to be affected.

Brown is one of the most frugal politicians this country has ever produced. And he's not afraid of being unpopular. I feel for you. I feel even more for your students. But were I you, I'd buckle up.
I agree, and Brown didn't lie when he said that if elected he would have to make some tough decisions. I think that is why he won overwhelmingly over Meg.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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In a school district not too far from us, they have been cutting positions. I think some unpaid days across the board is a better solution.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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What happens to the kids in school with unpaid days ?
Do teachers treat it like a day off and submit sub work ?
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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My school year has been already reduced by 5 days without pay, and to have it reduced by 15 more. All I can say is REALLY!!!! Governor Brown has said that if we don't get this tax initiative passed, then he will be forced to cut more spending for our schools where every school district would have to have 15 mandatory furlough days. For me, and most teacher, that is a hefty pay cut.
Are these mandatory furlough days that the regular teacher is off but the students attend with a substitute teacher? Or are these days that both teachers AND students have off? Or do the teachers work but just don't get paid for that day? Do administrators also have unpaid days (they should have a lot of unpaid days, considering how much money they earn)?

Last year our local school district added three days to the teachers school year but didn't change the pay so it was the same as working those three days without being paid. A lot of teachers were unhappy but without a union they couldn't do anything about it.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:06 PM
 
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Are these mandatory furlough days that the regular teacher is off but the students attend with a substitute teacher? Or are these days that both teachers AND students have off? Or do the teachers work but just don't get paid for that day? Do administrators also have unpaid days (they should have a lot of unpaid days, considering how much money they earn)?

Last year our local school district added three days to the teachers school year but didn't change the pay so it was the same as working those three days without being paid. A lot of teachers were unhappy but without a union they couldn't do anything about it.
Heck no. Furlough means, teachers don't work and get paid on those days, and students don't come to school on those days. The district decides when those days are on the calendar. Most school districts stretch the days through out the school year, some put them at the end, meaning shorter school year for the teacher without pay, and lost instructional days for the students.
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