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Old 07-25-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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These are the results of a telephone survey back in 2009. The percentages show how many students provided the correct answer. This is scary...

75 Percent of Oklahoma Students Can't Name the First President - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

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What is the supreme law of the land? 28 percent

What do we call the first ten amendments to the Constitution? 26 percent

What are the two parts of the U.S. Congress? 27 percent

How many justices are there on the Supreme Court? 10 percent

Who wrote the Declaration of Independence? 14 percent

What ocean is on the east coast of the United States? 61 percent

What are the two major political parties in the United States? 43 percent

We elect a U.S. senator for how many years? 11 percent

Who was the first President of the United States? 23 percent

Who is in charge of the executive branch? 29 percent
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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Wow. I'm appalled but not surprised.

When I was in 8th grade in California back in the '70s, there was something called the Constitution Test that all students had to pass before going on to high school (I think you could take it up to 3 times). We spent several weeks studying nothing but the Constitution, then we had a comprehensive (I think 2-part) exam on it. I thought it was the most interesting thing I had ever studied. We had to memorize the Preamble ("We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect union ..."). Even today, decades later, I can recite it verbatim (just did in my head).

I don't know if it is still a requirement for passing 8th grade in California. Somehow I doubt it. (Of course not all the above questions can be answered by studying the Constitution, but it's a great place to start!)
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm not surprised either. Students get bits and pieces now, no depth in the academics. Little to no homework or reading assignments and rote memorization is gone the way of the dinosaur.

It's now blogs (full of cut and paste from other sites), presentations (cut and paste again), watching movies and discussions around social issues.

I had a discussion with a 7th grade history teacher (10 years teaching) and he was just sick over how important information is just glossed over these days.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't know that memorizing the Preamble and being able to recite the U.S. Presidents in order necessarily makes one a better citizen, but certainly a working knowledge of history is a necessity! I actually didn't retain much history that I learned in school (in honors classes, even!); I thought it was dry and dull. Once I was out of school, though, I learned so much through just reading good books, and now history is my favorite subject, by far!
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:10 PM
 
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It really is sad that so many people don't have a working knowledge of the history or government (or geography) of our country. I think a major part of the problem is that memorization has become a dirty word in education. Most of this is memorization. The other problem is that we spend so much time on math, reading, and writing because that is what the state testing is all about.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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These are the results of a telephone survey back in 2009. The percentages show how many students provided the correct answer. This is scary...

75 Percent of Oklahoma Students Can't Name the First President - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |


I'd rather have (my) kids take Microsoft Office (Excel specifically) than history. I'd rather have them take an extra science or even a PE class instead of government. I'd rather have them take an extra math class instead of a social science class.


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It really is sad that so many people don't have a working knowledge of the history or government
Doesn't really bother me. I couldn't care less about government or politics. I don't vote and I don't care. Waste of time.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:20 PM
 
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That's why our politicians aren't held accountable.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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I'd rather have (my) kids take Microsoft Office (Excel specifically) than history. I'd rather have them take an extra science or even a PE class instead of government. I'd rather have them take an extra math class instead of a social science class.




Doesn't really bother me. I couldn't care less about government or politics. I don't vote and I don't care. Waste of time.
Interesting perspective...
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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That's why our politicians aren't held accountable.
It could be.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:41 PM
 
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I'd rather have (my) kids take Microsoft Office (Excel specifically) than history. I'd rather have them take an extra science or even a PE class instead of government. I'd rather have them take an extra math class instead of a social science class.

Doesn't really bother me. I couldn't care less about government or politics. I don't vote and I don't care. Waste of time.
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." Edmund Burke

It is foolish not to be concerned about the government seeing how it affects all our lives. If you don't vote, then don't complain when your liberty is taken away.
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