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Old 10-05-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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My son's school was set up differently. He was in the program discussed here:

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Old 10-05-2012, 04:53 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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With only this information, general chemistry and then AP chem. To skip general chem and do well in AP chem would take high motivation and high intelligence not just wanting to be a doctor.

Remember the path to succes isn't always the one that leads to parental bragging rights. The stronger your child's science background when they start AP chem, the better chance they have of doing well.

Yes. As the now former AP coordinator at my school, AP Chem will usually follow a year of general Chem (whether Honors or regular). It will give the student the basics because AP starts fast and then speeds up. I would also recommend a Chem class prior to taking AP Bio. We don't do that and the AP Bio teachers have all complained that they have to spend too much time teaching Chem when they should be doing Bio (AP Bio starts fast and then speeds up, too).
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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Yes. As the now former AP coordinator at my school, AP Chem will usually follow a year of general Chem (whether Honors or regular). It will give the student the basics because AP starts fast and then speeds up. I would also recommend a Chem class prior to taking AP Bio. We don't do that and the AP Bio teachers have all complained that they have to spend too much time teaching Chem when they should be doing Bio (AP Bio starts fast and then speeds up, too).
In my kids school they have to take a year of HS Bio and Chem before they can take AP Chem or Bio. They can go right into AP Physics if they have the appropriate math skills but they can't have AP Chem or Bio be their intro class.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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HS student here; just based off of what I have seen, regular chemistry can be a difficult course all on its own, skipping to AP Chem would not be a good idea. If your student wants to be a doctor , wouldn't AP bio be more advisable? Or a human anatomy course? Being an AP student, I would've probably failed had I not been in honors level classes, and even being in honors courses I had a hard time, if your child is In a non honors course I suggest visiting te collegeboard website and seeing what truly goes into an AP class.

Otherwise I would make an appointment for you and your child with the guidance counselor so that They can help you make an educated choice. One that is best for your child and their future.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Middletown, CT
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HS student here; just based off of what I have seen, regular chemistry can be a difficult course all on its own, skipping to AP Chem would not be a good idea. If your student wants to be a doctor , wouldn't AP bio be more advisable? Or a human anatomy course? Being an AP student, I would've probably failed had I not been in honors level classes, and even being in honors courses I had a hard time, if your child is In a non honors course I suggest visiting te collegeboard website and seeing what truly goes into an AP class.

Otherwise I would make an appointment for you and your child with the guidance counselor so that They can help you make an educated choice. One that is best for your child and their future.
I couldn't agree more. I took AP Chem last year and without having taking General Chem, I definitely wouldn't have done even close to as well. AP Chemistry is a very demanding course, so teachers don't have the time to teach the background Gen Chem information. They have to assume the student knows it already.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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Keep in mind that if they are premed, AP Chem is not going to place them out of anything.
That's not necessarily true. I skipped the intro sequence plus a qualitative analysis class with a 5 on the AP exam (I was premed at the time, though a non-science major), and a quick look at my alma mater's website shows that you can still exempt the intro sequence with a high enough score. This was a large state university.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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I would take your child to visit the Chemistry, or Pre Med counselor at your local college and ask.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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That's not necessarily true. I skipped the intro sequence plus a qualitative analysis class with a 5 on the AP exam (I was premed at the time, though a non-science major), and a quick look at my alma mater's website shows that you can still exempt the intro sequence with a high enough score. This was a large state university.
So they let you go straight into organic chemistry with an AP 5, but they had no placement test to place into organic chemistry? I could see large state schools doing that, but it still seems unusual.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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she can decide this on her own with the help of a school counselor if needed

i will add that ap classes are good for more than just placing out of classes in college. having a more rigorous hs course load will help her with college admissions and scholarships. like someone else said though, if she can't get an a or b in the class then she's better off with a general/standard class.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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So they let you go straight into organic chemistry with an AP 5, but they had no placement test to place into organic chemistry? I could see large state schools doing that, but it still seems unusual.
At my university there were three "levels" of O-chem, but you didn't take a placement test to determine which one you were in. If you were in the honors program you had the option of taking the Honors version of the class regardless of your major; otherwise chemistry majors took one version and non-chemistry majors took the other.

And as to the OP, AP Chem was considered Chem II at my high school and you couldn't take it without a year of general chemistry.
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