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View Poll Results: Is it to easy to get easy to get in your chil's school?
yes 15 65.22%
no 8 34.78%
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:02 AM
 
Location: FL
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I've thought about this before the tragedy. There's a buzzer at the front door of mine. That's about it. Sometimes the UPS man or another parent will hold the door open for you. There's an intercom, I press the button, they never speak....they just buzz me in. There is a school deputy there all the time but rarely seen.

I've worked at many factories with way tighter security. Card scan activated turnstiles and doors.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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The only door that is open is the front door,

All the other outside doors in the Elem School that teacher/staff would need access to are card-key Controlled. In the lobby is a attendance Secretary So you would need to go by her (or him) go get anywhere else. I know they have a panic button.

Our district has 5 (+ the lieutenant ) School resources officers assigned to the schools, Based at each High School, but they also 'service' all the middle and elementary schools that feed that High school.

Yes, my work place is has tighter security then my son's schools.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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Yes.

I volunteer at my children's school whenever my full-time working mom schedule allows it - and I let myself in there every time like I am strolling on Champs Elysee or something; and this is a school in a "fancy", upper-middle class area.
Maybe they live on that false sense of security..."it would never happen here as we are the respectable, wonderful, pillars of society".

Except that such things seem to happen EXACTLY among "pillars of society" who are usually too busy volunteering all day long but otherwise remaining guarded, isolated and "uber-private" at all times.
Perfect breeding ground for mental illness because nobody knows you for who you REALLY are. You just LOOK like you're awesome.

Last time I checked, crimes in "non-pillars of society" areas (low-income, minority, generally God-Forsaken) actually made some sense. Some 'hood boys shooting for drug-related motives and they were at least rational about who they were targeting.

But this kind of insanity is the "white, well-off, pillar-of-society" specialty. Maybe mental illness is the price they pay for clawing their way to the top.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Yes, my daughter attends a private school and even though it has become much more secure outside (locked fences, car gates), getting into the school would be fairly easy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Our school district started locking all the schools about 6 or 7 years ago. Everyone has to be buzzed in and you are asked your name even if they know who you are. We live in a fairly affluent district. What happens after you get in though is where security gets a little lax. You are supposed to report to the office, but in reality you could just go down a hall. We're all so concerned about security in schools but really if you were a crazed gunman it would be easier to walk into a public library or grocery store without anyone looking at you twice.

syracusa - I am baffled by the "pillars of society" reference. At any school I attended parents of all stripes volunteered. It was an enjoyable and rewarding thing to do. I volunteer because I hope I am benefiting someone and it makes me feel good. I don't do it to show people how terrific I am.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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Mental illness knows no bounds, it sadly crosses all socio-economic and cultural groups.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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And many schools administrators nationwide are sadly looking at school security today. In my town, the school flags are at half-mast.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Space Coast
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It's very easy to just walk in the unlocked front door and go right on past the main office. Yes, people are *supposed* to check in, but there's nothing stopping them from not. What's worse is that the school is also a polling place, and school is often open during elections (except for the major one last November).
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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And many schools administrators nationwide are sadly looking at school security today. In my town, the school flags are at half-mast.
The flags being flown at half mast is federal mandate. HALF STAFF AMERICAN FLAG NOTIFICATIONS
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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Our school district started locking all the schools about 6 or 7 years ago. Everyone has to be buzzed in and you are asked your name even if they know who you are. We live in a fairly affluent district. What happens after you get in though is where security gets a little lax. You are supposed to report to the office, but in reality you could just go down a hall. We're all so concerned about security in schools but really if you were a crazed gunman it would be easier to walk into a public library or grocery store without anyone looking at you twice.

syracusa - I am baffled by the "pillars of society" reference. At any school I attended parents of all stripes volunteered. It was an enjoyable and rewarding thing to do. I volunteer because I hope I am benefiting someone and it makes me feel good. I don't do it to show people how terrific I am.
It doesn't tell you anything the fact that most such incidents happen in middle to upper-middle class areas.
OK.
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