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Old 05-09-2013, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I heard the part about "coming in here and being handed packets" and there is a lot of truth to that about some teachers.
The kids in school these days have packets coming out of their ears.
Few classes use the textbooks and there's only one set kept in the classroom.
Might be different where you live but that's all that I see around here..packets.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:14 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Not being a teacher... I was impressed with the young mans argument with the teacher. Sounds like he has a legitimate beef.

There was a video yesterday from an Oakland female 8th grader assaulting her teacher.

This man is articulate and hopefully has a good future.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Funny how somehow this might go on national news. And it really shows what the education system has came to. Anyone can teach themselves and inform themselves about anything, but you're in school for a reason to learn. You can hardly ever go into a class room and learn anything other then how to count how many tiles are on the floor. Just because most teacher's get paid a very low amount, and the fact that they really don't care to inspire unless one or two students understand. (packets) Wouldn't be any different from a standard text book. You can sit down in a room full of students and tell them that they need to read from pages 170-180 Roughly 1/8th of a chapter and recite what they've learned, but what does that really do? I think this young man has brought up a very valid point.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Just because most teacher's get paid a very low amount, and the fact that they really don't care to inspire unless one or two students understand.
In my experience, teachers are paid a middle class salary equivalent to other white collar workers with 4-year degrees.
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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In my experience, teachers are paid a middle class salary equivalent to other white collar workers with 4-year degrees.

You must not have experienced North Carolina.
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: midwest
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I really can't tell what that is about but I will agree a teacher has no business talking to the kids about her paycheck. They don't have any control over it and why are they supposed to care.

But they should give the kids debit cards and let then pay for each class by selecting the teachers they want. People who can't teach won't make money. But don't give the teachers the power to grade. Base grades on tests not given by the teacher but covering the subject taught by that teacher. If the kid can learn from the book and pass the test without going to class then he can keep the money. LOL

Watch teachers scream about that.

psik
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Old 05-09-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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What's the context* of the video? All we're seeing is a student going on a tirade without knowing if any of what he's saying is true. It also seems like it might be, to some degree, staged, based on the filming of the incident (which shouldn't have happened, either).

*Would we get a much different picture of this student and his classmates if they were filmed on a daily basis? Is this teacher really holding them back in some way? In my experience those that whine the most also tend to be the biggest trouble-makers standing in the way of learning.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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But they should give the kids debit cards and let then pay for each class by selecting the teachers they want. People who can't teach won't make money. But don't give the teachers the power to grade. Base grades on tests not given by the teacher but covering the subject taught by that teacher. If the kid can learn from the book and pass the test without going to class then he can keep the money. LOL

Watch teachers scream about that.

psik
Let's take a step further, let's let kids decide if they even need to take these tests or attend school, since we're assuming that they're mature enough to do so. Let's let them take their debit cards and roam the streets during the day with thousands of dollars to spend as they choose. Even if most of them have terrible adulthoods because of decisions they made when they didn't know any better, at least they'll have a few years of fun at taxpayer expense.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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What's the context* of the video? All we're seeing is a student going on a tirade without knowing if any of what he's saying is true. It also seems like it might be, to some degree, staged, based on the filming of the incident (which shouldn't have happened, either).

*Would we get a much different picture of this student and his classmates if they were filmed on a daily basis? Is this teacher really holding them back in some way? In my experience those that whine the most also tend to be the biggest trouble-makers standing in the way of learning.

Based on the teacher's responses of "Yeah. Sure. Whatever. Just make sure to close the door." it sounds like it was true.

If you actually liked teaching, you would be outraged that someone is insulting you.

Also, if she just sits down and hands out packets every day, it's also logical that many of them use their phones in class, so when he starts talking, they just turn the camera on and start recording.
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