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Old 07-09-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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My husband the engineer doesn't do fiction, not even science fiction. Or, maybe it is especially science fiction. Much of the science is so fictionalized that it makes him uncomfortable.
Seriously? Give him Ringworld and the Ringworld engineers by Larry Niven as a present. There is some very good science fiction out there.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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So I wish to all of you this question: Are the STEM fields the only thing that matters in education today, to the point we should neglect the other fields?
Nah, it seems like its more about feeling good over everything else these days.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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Nah, it seems like its more about feeling good over everything else these days.
But now we want to feel good about STEM....
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:19 AM
 
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But now we want to feel good about STEM....
I have and will continue to post on these here forums, that the finer arts (along with trades) are likewise a very important part of the educational process.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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I have and will continue to post on these here forums, that the finer arts (along with trades) are likewise a very important part of the educational process.
That was sarcasm....
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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That was sarcasm....
Argh!! Ya got me.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: midwest
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My husband the engineer doesn't do fiction, not even science fiction. Or, maybe it is especially science fiction. Much of the science is so fictionalized that it makes him uncomfortable and drives him crazy.
I agree that a lot of the stuff called science fiction these days is crap. Some authors can't even get the Newtonian Physics correct.

That is Old School science fiction, 1961. LOL

They call it Hard SF these days and say the writing is bad.

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Old 07-09-2013, 05:39 PM
 
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If not STEM, then what else?

Business Owner (plumber, electrician, some type of home service like installing tankless water heaters, etc)
Plumbing and electricity are actually physics so that is STEM. LOL

The thing is, so many people are taught to do things via memorization and not to understand the principles.

psik
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:16 PM
 
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The thing is, so many people are taught to do things via memorization and not to understand the principles.
I sometimes wonder about that - especially when thinking about how NASA and the aerospace contractors got a man on the moon in nine years when nobody had a computer or excel or email. Amazing. Nowadays, every engineer has more power on his cell phone than did all of NASA in the 1960s. I bet we couldn't land a man on the moon five out of six times now. Back then, engineers were forced to be intimately familiar with the calculus, physics, science etc. Now, computer and models separate man from the science.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Michissippi
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So I wish to all of you this question: Are the STEM fields the only thing that matters in education today, to the point we should neglect the other fields?
~never-more
STEM fields are better than other fields, but that's not saying much. We still have an oversupply of people in many STEM fields, at least in area of science, see:

Is America's Science Education Gap Caused By Career Planning Fears?

Having all college students major in STEM fields is not the answer; it would just result in large numbers of unemployed and underemployed-involuntarily-out-of-field STEM grads. The real problem is that far more people are going to college than there are college-education-requiring jobs for them.
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