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Old 09-12-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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Back in the olden days when I went to school (first through 12), there were no disabled students, at least, none identified. Nowadays, having a disability seems more the norm than not. The children without a disability are the ones more likely to be left behind? Allowing or not allowing a service dog is one more problem a school must deal with among the near countless others.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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And how many of the children with asthma have pets, including dogs, in their homes? Even when they are allergic to the pet?

If I Have Asthma, Can I Keep My Pet?
This was on your linked site more than once.
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If your pet triggers your asthma, especially if your asthma is severe, the best bet might be to find it another home.
Not only that, one of the recommendations was to have your pets live and stay outside. Sheesh.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:02 AM
 
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Prior to today no one on here knew I had a documented disability because I DON'T PLAY THE VICTIM CARD. I hate talking about it, but it's people like you that make the rest of us look bad and I just can't keep my mouth shut when this type of vitriol gets spewed.
BRAVO!!!
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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Oldhag: There is no discussion going on. There is only one solution and she is the only one who can render an opinion.

The only solution is that a person who wants a dog must have it - no questions; no discussion. She's the expert. Don't waste your breath.
It really doesn't matter. The law is not on your side so the point is really moot. If the school pushes this in to court they will loose. Don't like it, change the law.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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Someone who has a diabetes alert dog has very severe, difficult to control diabetes and may not have enough warning to manage wide swings in blood sugar, particularly low blood sugars.
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Is the school system prepared to have a nurse available all day to take care of her --- at school expense?
Frankly, if the child is that bad off, they shouldn't be away from a nurse or parent to begin with. This is where home-schooling would be ideal, for the health of the child.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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My opinion is that since the school agreed to this before the family spent $20,000 (!) on this dog then they should have honored their agreement and figured out strategies to make this work for this child. Service dogs are highly trained dogs and having one in school is freeing this child to concentrate on her school work instead of her diabetes. Normalizing service dogs is a GOOD thing, IMHO. About Us :: Dogs4Diabetics
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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It really doesn't matter. The law is not on your side so the point is really moot. If the school pushes this in to court they will loose. Don't like it, change the law.
You need to read my posts before you comment.

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Normalizing service dogs is a GOOD thing, IMHO.
I agree. But I also think that sometimes there are situations where a service animal is not appropriate.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:11 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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It really doesn't matter. The law is not on your side so the point is really moot. If the school pushes this in to court they will loose. Don't like it, change the law.
The New York State Association of School Attorneys says differently. According to their guidelines "districts should decide on a case-by-case basis whether a student can receive "a free appropriate public education" without a dog." Since there are machines out there that automatically test blood sugar levels every 5 minutes, she can be accommodated with the far less distracting machine, which other kids are neither allergic to or afraid of, so everyone's right to an education is better protected.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Back in the olden days when I went to school (first through 12), there were no disabled students, at least, none identified. Nowadays, having a disability seems more the norm than not. The children without a disability are the ones more likely to be left behind? Allowing or not allowing a service dog is one more problem a school must deal with among the near countless others.
That is exactly right. +1

Today, disruption and imposition on others is an industry that more and more seem to delight in practicing. And yet some still wonder what went wrong in our public schools.
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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That is exactly right. +1

Today, disruption and imposition on others is an industry that more and more seem to delight in practicing. And yet some still wonder what went wrong in our public schools.
That's because back in the bad old days, students that had physical disabilities were marginalized, institutionalized, or otherwise separated from the general population. IMHO, that was pretty horrible. I can assure you that parents that have special needs students are not "delighting" on having their children's needs served.
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