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Old 12-09-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: California
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People are graduating college, and teaching, without knowing who Nelson Mandela was? That's a problem. You don't have to be a History or Political Science major to know who he was.
The only problem is people don't care to learn too much about something/someone they have no interest in. You can't force interest. I'm sure the lessons were there during the course of their schooling but they didn't place it high on their priority list. That is 100% true for everyone, there is always SOMETHING that's super duper important to people that others don't want to put any thought into. So I'm firm on whatever the teacher is doing and feel like any parent who wants can reinforce the importance of anything they want without being bugged by what is/isn't going on in their kids classroom that day. It's just so easy to talk to your kids about things that are important to you, I'm surprised more people don't do it.
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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WHY IS BEING POLITICALLY INVOLVED A HUMAN RESPONSIBILITY?

Because being aware of history (is that what you mean by being politically involved?) is important so that we all learn from the failures, mistakes and successes of our past. And so we as citizens know how to thoughtfully vote and be involved in our own communities.

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Old 12-09-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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We dont praise Communists in this country...oh wait nevermind... I think if the boys in WW2 knew what this country would become, they would of turned their asses right back around.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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We dont praise Communists in this country...oh wait nevermind... I think if the boys in WW2 knew what this country would become, they would of turned their asses right back around.
Ummm.... My father was a part of the D-Day invasion. He came to greatly admire Nelson Mandela and his demonstration of unification, forgiveness and reconciliation. But then he knew history and understood the full ramifications of what Mandela did.

BTW: Serving as a part of D-Day means he put his ass on the line, when he was barely out of high school, so you'd have the right to come here and call Mandela a commie. Conveniently ignoring everything that happened after Mandela walked out of prison. While he'd support your right to say whatever the heck you want, he'd tell you that making a blanket statement about every soldier who served in WWII.....what was it? ....."turning their asses right back around"... based on your political beliefs was flat-out insulting to each of them.

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Old 12-09-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I would be more concerned if Pearl Harbor wasn't mentioned.

Too many people have the MSNBC view of Mandela. His compliments of Castro, insults of the US, and views on private property are never mentioned.

You do realize that people can be against apartheid and not hold Mandela in high regard. I always thought that Chief Buthelezi should have been given control of South Africa at that time.
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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Ummm.... My father was a part of the D-Day invasion.

cool story, but what have YOU done for any of us besides cheerlead communism?
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Nobody is cheerleading communism here. I'm not and certainly Dew isn't either. We are simply saying the man should be mentioned in public schools, acknowledged for his accomplishments , sacrifices, yes even his mistakes but also for his turnaround to forgive and work for peace in his country as well as elsewhere. I know for a fact Bin Laden's death was discussed in school. So what's the big deal with Mandela? None of us lives in a vacuum any more. The world is getting smaller and smaller every day and to ignore a historical figure on the other side of the world is very short sighted.

BTW there are volumes written on the shortcomings and mistakes made by Ronal Reagan but most conservatives would have the rest of the world think he walked on water.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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Too many people have the MSNBC view of Mandela. His compliments of Castro, insults of the US, and views on private property are never mentioned.
Every single one of us has a belief or thought that is not shared with the masses. That does not mean than our contributions have no value. Nor does it mean that every stupid thing we've done or said should be brought up our our eulogy.

The man just died. Let's honor his contributions. Next week, we can debate the details.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:02 PM
 
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cheerlead communism?
Lol. Not hardly. But your attempt to further stir the pot is noted.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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I would be more concerned if Pearl Harbor wasn't mentioned.
Pearl Harbor was never mentioned on December 7 when I was in school. In fact, our schools never mentioned current events or deaths of "important" people.

Do I think it's necessary for schools to do so? I don't know. A teacher could have given a very short statement on that he was the first black president of South Africa and encouraged the children to go to the library and do further research. That would only take a minute of class time.
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