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Old 01-13-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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In Anchorage School District it says:
"Teachers may report to alternative work sites of individual choice, provided the missed school day does not have to be made up. If teachers will be required to make up the emergency school closure day, AEA members will be notified on or before the closure day that it is a non-working, non-paid day. "

We always just laughed, as if we were going to report to the nearest school & say "Well, here I am!" Instead, we just used our homes as our alternative work site & stayed home
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest transplant
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In my 32 years of teaching, students and teachers were either delayed or off for inclement weather. All of us would have to make up the days at some point in the year, usually days were tacked on to the end of the year, so it didn't make any sense for teachers to be there without students. (Although if the weather was decent by the middle of the day, the schools might be open for athletic practices and teachers could go in if they wanted to work in their rooms on their own time). I would do this occasionally, especially if it was nearing the end/beginning of a semester.

TPTB decided that they would try to recover some of the days throughout the school year, by tacking **inclement weather make up days to a winter break, Easter Break (which was only Thursday, Friday and Monday). We would usually lose winter break and Thursday and Monday of Easter weekend and still have days added to the end of the year. For the life of me, we could never understand why they just didn't make the calendar go into the 2nd week of June with 5 days built in at the end and the other days left intact. Crazy....but I was just a teacher, not an administrator.

BTW, we could take personal days if we had vacations scheduled, or we could take days without pay with no penalty if it would have been a hardship to cancel a vacation, so they were considerate enough in that regard.
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Old 12-09-2023, 01:14 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I guess this thread is kind of moot now since many school systems have decreed that there will be no more snow days, the kids and teachers will just do on-line instruction on weather closure days.

Yeah, that will work well.
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Old 12-09-2023, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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I guess this thread is kind of moot now since many school systems have decreed that there will be no more snow days, the kids and teachers will just do on-line instruction on weather closure days.

Yeah, that will work well.
Our district just reversed that policy. The past few years the policy said classes would be online or "virtual" after the 5th inclement weather day. This year they switched it back to the traditional inclement weather day policy.

https://northernvirginiamag.com/fami...w-days-policy/
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Old 12-10-2023, 03:49 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Our district just reversed that policy. The past few years the policy said classes would be online or "virtual" after the 5th inclement weather day. This year they switched it back to the traditional inclement weather day policy.

https://northernvirginiamag.com/fami...w-days-policy/
I saw that, sort of why this necro-thread tickled a memory.

I can just imagine the hoops if you'd go home in the winter with a storm possible and have to plan to maybe have to be on-line the next day if it storms. Especially since so many school systems wait until the last minute to make a decision.
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Old 12-10-2023, 08:52 PM
 
Location: WA
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I guess this thread is kind of moot now since many school systems have decreed that there will be no more snow days, the kids and teachers will just do on-line instruction on weather closure days.

Yeah, that will work well.
Not here in Washington.

They build in 3 snow makeup days into the school schedule in the spring that are staff training days but that revert to regular classroom days in the event of snow closures. If they need more than 3 makeup days then they extend the school year.

There is a state law that requires that all districts have 180 days of instruction per year so they would need to get a state waiver if they have too many snow closures and can't get to 180. That sometimes happens if we have a really bad winter with long closures.

There is also a state law that requires that lunch must be served each school day for it to count as a school day. So often they will have a late start due to inclement weather but always serve lunch. Or sometimes an early release in the event of bad weather approaching. But again, they always at least have a grab-and-go sack lunch and an official lunch period on the schedule to make it count as a school day.

Theoretically we could do a day of remote learning on snow days as all kids have chromebooks. But in practice that isn't going to work since the elementary schools keep the student chromebooks in the classroom and kids won't have their chromebooks at home for an unplanned snow day. At the middle and HS level, some kids might have them in their school lockers, or left at Dad's house across the city, or whatever. Also no small number lack good WiFi at home for a big variety of reasons. During COVID the district passed out WiFi hot spots to students who didn't have WiFi at home, but again, for a snow day with no advance notice that isn't happening.

So basically it is too much trouble to even try to have remote learning school on a snow day and they don't even bother to try. Teachers of advanced classes like AP classes might post up assignments. But most aren't going to even bother since so few kids will do them. And it is unlikely that teachers could penalize students for not doing them since there are so many reasonable reasons for why students were unable to do them.
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Old 12-11-2023, 05:38 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Here most school systems are still holding on to the "snow days will be on-line" mantra, Fairfax County being the exception that just changed.

I'm retired but I have no doubt that the people directly impacted, teachers and parents, said the same things you highlighted. except maybe the lunch law although FARM numbers do impact closures here, but Central Office functionaries got the on-line snow days bone in their teeth and are still running with it.
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Old 12-13-2023, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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I guess this thread is kind of moot now since many school systems have decreed that there will be no more snow days, the kids and teachers will just do on-line instruction on weather closure days.

Yeah, that will work well.
Our district never moved to on-line for snow days, thankfully, We still get our snow days, and when it is bad enough to close school, you can usually go to the slopes and see all the teachers and students skiing/boarding and enjoying their time off.
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Old 12-13-2023, 08:11 AM
 
Location: WA
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Around here in Camas WA (suburban hills above Portland) the real issue is road conditions. The school district runs up into the foothills of the Cascades and there are some parts of the school district that can get a dump of a foot or more of show when the lower parts just get a dusting. And because we are on the edge of freeze and thaw the roads can be incredibly icy. In fact ice storms are as common as snow. They can often be more slippery than in really cold zones of the US.

What the district office lives in fear of is deciding to hold school on some icy/snowy day and then have the city wake up to hear about some ice-related car crash that kills 5 students trying to drive to school in their 20 year old student beater car with bald tires. Or likewise, having some random car slide off the road and take out 10 elementary kids waiting on the side of the road for the bus.

So they tend to err on the side of caution and schools are often closed when it seems perfectly fine at the lower elevations. But much more commonly they will just announce a 2 hour late start when the roads are bad so that at least it will be daylight hours when kids are going to school and it will give the city more time to clear roads, put down sand or chemicals, etc.
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Old 12-14-2023, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Around here in Camas WA (suburban hills above Portland) the real issue is road conditions. The school district runs up into the foothills of the Cascades and there are some parts of the school district that can get a dump of a foot or more of show when the lower parts just get a dusting. And because we are on the edge of freeze and thaw the roads can be incredibly icy. In fact ice storms are as common as snow. They can often be more slippery than in really cold zones of the US.

What the district office lives in fear of is deciding to hold school on some icy/snowy day and then have the city wake up to hear about some ice-related car crash that kills 5 students trying to drive to school in their 20 year old student beater car with bald tires. Or likewise, having some random car slide off the road and take out 10 elementary kids waiting on the side of the road for the bus.

So they tend to err on the side of caution and schools are often closed when it seems perfectly fine at the lower elevations. But much more commonly they will just announce a 2 hour late start when the roads are bad so that at least it will be daylight hours when kids are going to school and it will give the city more time to clear roads, put down sand or chemicals, etc.
Road conditions are usually the bigger concern where I work as well, for the reasons you stated. One year, they took a risk and kept school in session. By lunch time, they decided it was a mistake, but conditions were too bad for buses, so parents were responsible for picking up their own kids. It was a mess.
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