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It's actually quite a decent salary considering they have the summer off too.
I hear all of these arguments that teachers are underpaid because they put in extra hours and have a masters degree education. Yea, I do too and I make a similar amount, for a whole years worth of work. So, when the union, or whomever, make those graphics/videos, how are they supposed to garner any sympathy when we (other college educated professionals) make the same amount?
The bigger problem is there is a wide, WIDE divide between what teachers get paid depending on geographic location and luck. As in, you need to be lucky to snag a job in a good state and wealthy district. So, really teachers should be duking it out with each other.
It's actually quite a decent salary considering they have the summer off too.
I hear all of these arguments that teachers are underpaid because they put in extra hours and have a masters degree education. Yea, I do too and I make a similar amount, for a whole years worth of work. So, when the union, or whomever, make those graphics/videos, how are they supposed to garner any sympathy when we (other college educated professionals) make the same amount?
The bigger problem is there is a wide, WIDE divide between what teachers get paid depending on geographic location and luck. As in, you need to be lucky to snag a job in a good state and wealthy district. So, really teachers should be duking it out with each other.
I did find a job in a wealthy district but that doesn't stop them from crying poor. I've had one step increase in 5 years and they gave us a pay cut this year. If this keeps up, I will never make what I made the day I started in this district again. Yes there are highly paid teachers in my district but they've been there 20+ years. It's annoying to be told how much we are valued by the district and then they won't even give us the step increases they say are normal. So don't assume wealthy district means high pay. At the rate of one step every 5 years it will take 65 years for a teacher to reach top pay.
I did find a job in a wealthy district but that doesn't stop them from crying poor. I've had one step increase in 5 years and they gave us a pay cut this year. If this keeps up, I will never make what I made the day I started in this district again. Yes there are highly paid teachers in my district but they've been there 20+ years. It's annoying to be told how much we are valued by the district and then they won't even give us the step increases they say are normal. So don't assume wealthy district means high pay. At the rate of one step every 5 years it will take 65 years for a teacher to reach top pay.
I've been through this before with the denizens of this good forum.
Teachers in well paying (not necessarily wealthy) districts in NJ can easily make 80K or above for ~8 years of experience. With just a bachelors.
And one of them was my friend's brother, so I can corroborate that salary.
IMO, that is a phenomenal salary for a teacher. And I am aware that some teachers make much, much less. So, as I said, the teachers should be duking it out with each other and not trying to convince the public at large, who makes no more salary in most cases for a full years work, that they are underpaid.
While it is a simple question, there is no simple answer.
Teachers should not be the highest paid members of society, IMHO.
So in lower cost of living areas, they should make less than their counterparts in more expensive areas.
Teachers who teach more specialized classes should make more than the teachers that don't.
etc. etc.
It's hard to vote here. I don't know exactly how to fix the the teacher pay issue, but I dislike the egalitarian nature of it. I worked at a school that placed little demands on the PE teachers compared to the math and science teachers. I don't think they should get paid the same as math teachers until they are evaluated based on the sports ability of their students.
I think I should be paid at least $40 per hour for each hour worked. If I only work 10 hours a day 186 days a year, that would be $74,400. I actually work more than that, and I'm not even asking for time and a half, which cops and firemen get. The way it works now, I get paid $25 per hour worked, or less, for each hour worked, and I have eight years of post secondary education and 15 years experience.
Seniority shouldn't affect pay. Teacher is a job. It should pay a certain amount. COLA raises yearly. School boards and administration should back the teachers more than they do now, which usually isn't much.
I never agreed that a raise should be given if they get a masters. In most occupations you have to take on a position of added responsibility to get a raise, not get a masters and continue to teach 2nd grade. Move to guidance, curriculum, or asst. principal for the increase in pay.
I do think some inner city teachers should get hazardous duty pay.
One off topic comment about schools. Quit calling janitors custodians. A custodian is a skilled position. They do not pick up a broom.
Depends on the type of teacher. An experienced grade school teacher in an area with an average cost of living should make about 50k. Something like a HS math or science teacher with a masters in the subject they actually teach should make about 70k, but these teachers should be held responsible for their students performance. I'm not saying their students should have to compete with students from better parts of town. but they should at last be competing with other students in the same school, and their performance on standardized tests should directly effect their teachers pay.
I can't answer the poll since it will vary so much due to the cost of living in an area. Are we talking about San Francisco? The DC area? Cleveland or KC?
On our Northern Virginia board, people post questions asking if they can "survive" or "make it" on a particular salary. Recently, a salary of $52,000 was seen as being near "poverty wages" by one and posters will typically say that someone making that amount will have a tight budget and need a roommate. Our teachers, with a BA, start just below $47k. Not so great by DC Metro standards.
Recently, a salary of $52,000 was seen as being near "poverty wages" by one and posters will typically say that someone making that amount will have a tight budget and need a roommate.
And you believe that?
As a schoolteacher?
When you are so close to the ills of Washington, DC?
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