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Old 09-18-2015, 09:57 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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"From the moment a child enters one of the nation’s 98,000 public schools to the moment she graduates, she will be exposed to a steady diet of draconian zero tolerance policies that criminalize childish behavior, overreaching anti-bullying statutes that criminalize speech, school resource officers (police) tasked with disciplining and/or arresting so-called 'disorderly' students, standardized testing that emphasizes rote answers over critical thinking, politically correct mindsets that teach young people to censor themselves and those around them, and extensive biometric and surveillance systems that, coupled with the rest, acclimate young people to a world in which they have no freedom of thought, speech or movement."

Public School Students Are the New Inmates in the American Police State - The Future of Freedom Foundation

The rise of the surveillance state starts with the children, who will grow up not knowing what freedom is really like. They will grow up being used to oppression and constant monitoring.
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I know what you mean. I think this is why people go into the education to begin with...to bully children and indoctrinate them with their agenda.
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Old 09-19-2015, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Your premise is totally bogus, but I strongly agree that mindless "zero tolerance" policies are problematic.
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Old 09-19-2015, 07:03 AM
 
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"From the moment a child enters one of the nation’s 98,000 public schools to the moment she graduates, she will be exposed to a steady diet of draconian zero tolerance policies that criminalize childish behavior, overreaching anti-bullying statutes that criminalize speech, school resource officers (police) tasked with disciplining and/or arresting so-called 'disorderly' students, standardized testing that emphasizes rote answers over critical thinking, politically correct mindsets that teach young people to censor themselves and those around them, and extensive biometric and surveillance systems that, coupled with the rest, acclimate young people to a world in which they have no freedom of thought, speech or movement."

Public School Students Are the New Inmates in the American Police State - The Future of Freedom Foundation

The rise of the surveillance state starts with the children, who will grow up not knowing what freedom is really like. They will grow up being used to oppression and constant monitoring.
Thanks so much for your post on the Education forum! How amazing that you escaped the grasp of our crazy police state-mind meld schools to write a post that is totally your own thoughts!
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:46 AM
 
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Thanks so much for your post on the Education forum! How amazing that you escaped the grasp of our crazy police state-mind meld schools to write a post that is totally your own thoughts!
While the OP may have overstated somewhat, you have to admit the basic point is correct. There are too many mindless "zero tolerance" policies and too many school systems that are more focused on student control than student education.
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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When a poptart is considered a gun you might have gone off the deep end.

But seriously kids are awful from 11-15, and since everyone is a unique snowflake what else can we do but lay out punishments that don't open up our schools to lawsuits. Standard punishments are blind to sex, gender, and race. Yes, certain demographics break the rules more often, and thus will be punished more often, but what's the alternative?

Know your battles. Life is a choose you're own adventure book, not every choice works out, and there might be limited choices, but you still get to pick.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Just don't bring a clock to a public school and you'll be fine.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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The rise of the surveillance state starts with the children, who will grow up not knowing what freedom is really like. They will grow up being used to oppression and constant monitoring.
True. You can't learn decision-making, that actions have consequences, if every mistake is treated with "zero tolerance".
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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It all stems back to our willingness to impose liability on teachers and school officials for any and all harm that comes during school hours. When the only way for school employees to protect themselves from career-ending and life-savings-taking liability is zero tolerance, standardized testing, and police officers in schools, then what you get is zero tolerance, standardized testing, and police officers in school.
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Old 09-21-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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Just don't bring a clock to a public school and you'll be fine.
Just don't take apart a 20 year old radio shock digital clock and place it intact, with no modifications, into a pencil case. Take it to school, not as part of an assignment or at the request of any teacher just take it...because. Then, when a teacher tells you, interesting clock, but don't show it to anyone else make sure you plug it in so it start beeping in your English class. Wrap an electrical cord around it as well, you'll be fine.
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